They won't though. They're like leftists or muslims. It is never enough to have their own place to talk about their own shit. They have to take yours too so they have both and you have none.
It won't. There are at most a dozen to a few dozen members of this sub. 95% of the people who have stuck around are totally on board with this just becoming another ConPro. Virtually all of the users who wanted to have a place to talk about nerd shit from a non-leftist perspective left years ago. This sub has zero growth and a gradual decline as someone else leaves every couple of months. There was a chance long ago to make the .win version of KiA2 just a popular as the reddit version, and without all the weird secret rules about not being allowed to talk about fags and troons. But the ship has long since sailed and it ain't coming back. This sub will remain a tiny little decrepit clubhouse of a handful of spergs until it eventually dies off.
I think most of the people engaged with that aspect of the culture war have migrated to the equivalent YouTubers/content creators with similar coverage, like Endymion, SyntheticMan, Doctor Disaster, etc.
You cannot really have these conversations on open web forums because it's all controlled by the people who hate you, and places like this will always veer into the upper-hierarchy of the politics related to the social aspects because entertainment culture is all downstream of that (I know there's an argument to be made about the reverse being true, but broadly speaking if you look at places like Russia, Hungary or China, their top-level politics prevent stuff like faggotry from being widely promoted in entertainment culture, hence they have stopgaps in place to corral which direction entertainment moves, politically).
KiA2 is basically just diet Consume Product at this point, has been for a while.
That's a problem that needs correcting.
Needs to be full consume product
Maybe you and people who feel similarly should simply post on consume product.
They won't though. They're like leftists or muslims. It is never enough to have their own place to talk about their own shit. They have to take yours too so they have both and you have none.
It won't. There are at most a dozen to a few dozen members of this sub. 95% of the people who have stuck around are totally on board with this just becoming another ConPro. Virtually all of the users who wanted to have a place to talk about nerd shit from a non-leftist perspective left years ago. This sub has zero growth and a gradual decline as someone else leaves every couple of months. There was a chance long ago to make the .win version of KiA2 just a popular as the reddit version, and without all the weird secret rules about not being allowed to talk about fags and troons. But the ship has long since sailed and it ain't coming back. This sub will remain a tiny little decrepit clubhouse of a handful of spergs until it eventually dies off.
This is a depressing but plausible analysis. Is there even a space left to have that discussion anymore?
I think most of the people engaged with that aspect of the culture war have migrated to the equivalent YouTubers/content creators with similar coverage, like Endymion, SyntheticMan, Doctor Disaster, etc.
You cannot really have these conversations on open web forums because it's all controlled by the people who hate you, and places like this will always veer into the upper-hierarchy of the politics related to the social aspects because entertainment culture is all downstream of that (I know there's an argument to be made about the reverse being true, but broadly speaking if you look at places like Russia, Hungary or China, their top-level politics prevent stuff like faggotry from being widely promoted in entertainment culture, hence they have stopgaps in place to corral which direction entertainment moves, politically).