Why Young Men Are Giving Up
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I can't remember exactly how it got brought up but it was probably over a conversation about her dating. She dates a number of men specifically because these men pay for things for her (food dates, travel, etc...) but then she also fucks hot 6-pack men for fun whenever she wants sex (she never calls her beta men for sex). I think I probably asked her what it would take for her to be monogamous to one guy and that's where it started. She's not the only young woman dating like this. I remember about 10 years ago when redpill and PUA stuff was more rampant but starting to get banned on youtube, a woman showed me youtube videos she followed that were essentially women teaching other women how to set themselves up with multiple beta simps to pay for everything while providing as little sex as possible to them.
My goals aren't wrong at all but I'm definitely navigating in the weeds. Finding a 120 pound hot blonde 18yo virgin girl to love me forever is not really a realistic goal for a single man approaching 40. It's not a realistic goal for any man. Most men have to adapt to reality which means either no women at all or trying to find a woman who'll work for you and that woman is going to be low value overall but perhaps for you specifically you can still derive some positive value from her. What you consider low value might actually have some value to me but not to you and it's these kinds of women most men need to work with because women who're obvious high-value to all men are mostly non-existent and they most definitely don't exist for nearly 40 year old men. I've also found as I've got older, most women are far more honest with me about their desires but younger women when dealing with younger men are not so honest.
Younger men should not bother trying to date and instead focus on their money, their goal should be to be ballers when they reach their thirty. In the far past, when women married virgin, young men got their women experience in brothels while they were busy building their future. This need to come back.
This still happens in the middle east and Asia. European women are more loose but men still get their experience with something better than hags. This seems to be exclusively an American problem.
This is what I'm talking about. This reply is so coom-brained, it's absurd to the point of parody. Why are you talking to whores? Why are you even acknowledging the existence of whores?
If it weren't for whores, I wouldn't have had sex for over 10 years. Maybe one or two drunken regrets thrown in there. It's either whores or no woman at all for me.
I had this conversation literally with a whore. She was telling me I should go for women that are actually into me for me instead of whores (ironic since she's literally a whore and I've bought her before). She helped me make a tinder profile and after a couple weeks literally the only women I matched with were literal whores who said as much and were negotiating price.
I dunno where you think all these great women are I can go after? There's no female supermarket I can just go to. I used to go out to house parties and get togethers in the city to meet people. All the women I met this way that I was interested in were only interested in fucking hot men for fun. There's this girl, my age, single, I'm friends with I met at a guy's house who had some people over after a concert. She was friends with his roommate. I tried dating her but she literally told me she just wants to stay single so she can fuck the hot men who come around in the summer (area I'm in is a touristy town that sees 5x the local pop of tourists coming in during the summer so it's not uncommon for girls to fuck new men in the summer and then look around a little for some solid fucks during cuffing season before branching out for new fucks during hot girl summer aka slut season.
These amazing quality women just don't exist for me in my realm. They exist on the internet and that's it. I've never met one irl.
I dunno man. If I wanted to have sex outside of marriage, I'd have a few decent non-whore options.
I don't. I haven't actually ever in my life. I've had sex with women, obviously, but none I wanted. I always had to just take the bleh women that came my way. I know what's best for me and I'd rather buy a whore than get any woman I'm capable of getting for free and I have no intention of trying to change myself to get a woman, lol. A lot of the women who go for me should be paying me for me to fuck them. I'm not running a charity service for ugly women here.
I don't know what to tell you, man. You're complaining that a 2000 calorie diet is physically impossible because the only food that exists are big macs.
Women are not, categorically, whores. Again, I agree with the overall sentiment of the thread and that whorishness is at an all time high. But literal whores are a tiny fraction of the population. The fact that you know so many is weird.
That said, you aren't gonna bag a baby-fever 18yo. If you wanted that, you need to go back in time about 25 years and be less of a coomer. But the fact that you have a female friend who is nearly 40 and still sleeping around, and telling you about it, is weird. Normal people aren't like that.
I don't like "normal" people. Remember, the average man and woman in society is overweight and ugly. I hang out with a specific group of people, the hot and sexual ones that like to have fun because that's the kinds of women I find attractive. Most normal women are boring and unattractive to me. Most normal men are losers, from my perspective.
I'm not questioning you and I've got no experience with the contemporary dating scene. But you made me wonder something. If you're living somewhere like that, does the "spring break" style debauchery become enough of the local culture that locals just accept it as normal while they're growing up and get shaped by it?
Could your personal experience be mostly a result of the locale? At the very least, you're going to see more literal whores in high tourism areas. Supply and demand.
Could very well be but I didn't find much difference in any city I've lived in. I've lived in 9 different cities anywhere from 2000 population to 2m. Everyone has the internet and learns the same things these days.