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This is what Hitler was trying to prevent. Anyone hating him is spiritually complicit. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 34 days ago by SparkMandrill83 34 days ago by SparkMandrill83 +52 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 5 points 34 days ago +5 / -0

The Soviets raped a lot of women, the black and Arab allied forces raped some more, and the rest of the allies not so much.

Western countries had good relations with West Germany immediately after the war. Obviously that doesn't happen if you rape and murder indiscriminately.

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– horstshort 4 points 33 days ago +4 / -0

Western countries had good relations with West Germany immediately after the war.

West Germany was (and still is) under military occupation. That's like saying East Germany had good relations with the Soviet Union.

Obviously that doesn't happen if you rape and murder indiscriminately.

And indiscriminately destroy every city, imprison millions under the open sky as 'disarmed combatants' so you can ignore international law about the treatment of prisoners of war, kidnap more for forced labor, commit the greatest intellectual property theft and book burning in human history, forcibly 're-educate' the population and much more.

Of course the occupier is going to have 'good relations' with the government he installed and completely controls.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 33 days ago +1 / -0

West Germany was (and still is) under military occupation. That's like saying East Germany had good relations with the Soviet Union.

No, on a person to person manner. Talk to a servicemember who is/was stationed in Germany. The Cold War would never have been won if West Germans had substantial resentment towards Americans.

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– horstshort 2 points 33 days ago +2 / -0

No, on a person to person manner.

Resentment wasn't even allowed. Nobody with half a brain would have openly shown his resentment to the Allied occupiers. The Germans were forcibly re-educated. There was no free press. Literally every newspaper needed to get permission of the intelligence agencies to even operate.

So considering these circumstances and that the Germans were rather glad that the war was over and they weren't bombed every day anymore and they had to deal with a massive influx of refugees and had to rebuild their entire country... yeah they were not showing their resentment for the occupiers because they neither had the time nor even the opportunity for it without getting in a whole lot of trouble.

The Cold War would never have been won if West Germans had substantial resentment towards Americans.

The Cold War was 'won' because the Soviet Union collapsed. West Germany had nothing to do with it. The Stasi even had operatives in the highest echelons of NATO. If it had come to a shooting war it would have become very nasty very quickly.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 32 days ago +1 / -0

Resentment wasn't even allowed. Nobody with half a brain would have openly shown his resentment to the Allied occupiers. The Germans were forcibly re-educated. There was no free press. Literally every newspaper needed to get permission of the intelligence agencies to even operate.

You think speech controls effectively suppress personal resentment? Consult history to see what people act like when they truly don't like their occupiers. Roman-ruled Judea, Ukrainian-ruled Donbass. Even in complete peacetime it's very obvious.

The Cold War was 'won' because the Soviet Union collapsed. West Germany had nothing to do with it. The Stasi even had operatives in the highest echelons of NATO. If it had come to a shooting war it would have become very nasty very quickly.

The fact that people were constantly fleeing into West Germany from communism into capitalism is in fact a massive reason why the Soviet Union collapsed. One side won the economic war, the other one lost.

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