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So we’re just rebranding tabula rasa now? Fascinating how that keeps happening.
Consciousness is the ability to independently express self awareness, this is not some new concept, leftists repeatedly try to muddle the term because that’s their nature.
Neither are conscious as neither have been independently able to express self awareness.
An AI can absolutely "express self-awareness." It can say "I am self-aware." It may not be true, but it's something it can do.
You might say "Well, okay, but it can't do it independently." Okay, but can we do it independently? It's not like we invented language. The words "I am self-aware" were taught to us. If we were abandoned as children and raised by wolves, we couldn't express self-awareness.
The word "express" means more than just "say."
As in: `you have just expressed an inability to grasp complicated concepts.'
It didn't require you to say you're stupid, but everyone observing you was easily able to infer it.
A child raised by wolves will not be able to express self-awareness through sign language, or grunting, or interpretative dance, or any other way. We've studied feral children before. They lack the ability completely.
If you believe this because someone told you it then you are retarded.
Oh yea? Who did? When? Where's the paper? I mean there's just tons of feral children around, so I assume there's a deep collection of good verified science here.
If I record "I'm a conscious tape recorder" on a tape, and then set a tape recorder to play it back on repeat, is it conscious?
Use some actual fucking reason.
That’s a complete lie. Language and expression would not exist if humans could not do it independently. We have art going back tens of thousands of years which uniquely display self awareness.
We had language tens of thousands of years ago, sure. We don't really know when and how it started. That's the subject of a great deal of academic debate. But we do know that children who aren't taught language, don't develop any language of their own, and behave in feral and animalistic ways.
What insanity are you referring to now? The most famous example of a “feral child”, Genie was literally abused and locked away in captivity, starved, and literally tied down the majority of her life. That’s not a naturally occurring phenomenon, she wasn’t out “living with wolves”, she was heavily abused, in trauma, and without stimulus from any form of realistic existence. The second she was exposed to stimuli she learned nonverbal communication almost immediately.
There is no such thing as "independent." Everything and everyone is constantly responding to stimuli.
This is a hilarious shitlib argument that is the basis of “everyone is a product of their environment”. A dog can be trained to press a button that says “I am independently aware” yet it has no clue what it is accomplishing, it is simply responding to an input command, the dog is not acting independently.