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Boomers are truly a unique generation (twitter.com)
posted 34 days ago by Ahaus667 34 days ago by Ahaus667 +46 / -0
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– Hematomato 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

Consciousness is the ability to independently express self awareness, this is not some new concept, leftists repeatedly try to muddle the term because that’s their nature.

An AI can absolutely "express self-awareness." It can say "I am self-aware." It may not be true, but it's something it can do.

You might say "Well, okay, but it can't do it independently." Okay, but can we do it independently? It's not like we invented language. The words "I am self-aware" were taught to us. If we were abandoned as children and raised by wolves, we couldn't express self-awareness.

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– TheMafia 5 points 34 days ago +5 / -0

The word "express" means more than just "say."

As in: `you have just expressed an inability to grasp complicated concepts.'

It didn't require you to say you're stupid, but everyone observing you was easily able to infer it.

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– Hematomato 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

A child raised by wolves will not be able to express self-awareness through sign language, or grunting, or interpretative dance, or any other way. We've studied feral children before. They lack the ability completely.

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– TheMafia 1 point 33 days ago +1 / -0

A child raised by wolves will not be able to express self-awareness through sign language, or grunting, or interpretative dance, or any other way.

If you believe this because someone told you it then you are retarded.

We've studied feral children before.

Oh yea? Who did? When? Where's the paper? I mean there's just tons of feral children around, so I assume there's a deep collection of good verified science here.

They lack the ability completely.

If I record "I'm a conscious tape recorder" on a tape, and then set a tape recorder to play it back on repeat, is it conscious?

Use some actual fucking reason.

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– DrySharkPussy 1 point 33 days ago +1 / -0

There are tons of feral niglets running around.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 4 points 34 days ago +4 / -0

You might say "Well, okay, but it can't do it independently." Okay, but can we do it independently? It's not like we invented language. The words "I am self-aware" were taught to us. If we were abandoned as children and raised by wolves, we couldn't express self-awareness.

That’s a complete lie. Language and expression would not exist if humans could not do it independently. We have art going back tens of thousands of years which uniquely display self awareness.

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– Hematomato 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

We had language tens of thousands of years ago, sure. We don't really know when and how it started. That's the subject of a great deal of academic debate. But we do know that children who aren't taught language, don't develop any language of their own, and behave in feral and animalistic ways.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 3 points 34 days ago +3 / -0

But we do know that children who aren't taught language, don't develop any language of their own, and behave in feral and animalistic ways.

What insanity are you referring to now? The most famous example of a “feral child”, Genie was literally abused and locked away in captivity, starved, and literally tied down the majority of her life. That’s not a naturally occurring phenomenon, she wasn’t out “living with wolves”, she was heavily abused, in trauma, and without stimulus from any form of realistic existence. The second she was exposed to stimuli she learned nonverbal communication almost immediately.

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– Hematomato 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

Genie is far from the only example. Saturday Mthiyane, Dina Sanichar, Marcos Pantoja, the Bamberg Boy, the Girl of Issaux, Victor of Aveyron, there have been dozens of feral children, and none of them were "capable of expressing self-awareness."

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