Shocker: most, if not all, humans agree on what makes someone attractive (especially women). Athletic body, long, luscious hair, bright, round eyes, and fair skin. We Europeans won the genetic lottery when it comes to combinations of these traits, closely followed by northeast asians, which is why everybody else on earth lusts after our women. It's only a tiny portion of westerners (and the usual suspects) in positions of media authority who try and celebrate ugliness and freakishness.
They will always fail, because they're fighting againts human nature.
Beauty is not subjective imo. 95% of women knows what beauty is because its innate. Most women love foxes and cats, not pigs and banana slugs. Foxes and cats are slender, thin waist, long limbs, triangular faces... which is the same as what the feminine traits of a sexy woman is.
Also.. show a 2 year old toddler a picture of a kitten and a picture of The Thing or some kinda grotesque entity.. pretty sure toddler instinctively will freak out over The Thing and would be happy to see the cat. Its instinctive. Same concept as males gravitates towards fire trucks and females gravitate towards dolls. Its literally instinct.
Don't know, women have a different view of what a good looking woman is, and it changes more with the times than men's taste in women.
Look at the ironing board asses that were sought in female models in the 90s vs the pinup girls on WWII planes. The pinup girls are pretty much what men still seek in a woman the most today. Still, the models of the 90s were usually top 5%, but they weren't the best of the best at attracting men like the women and gay men in the fashion industry made them out to be, just above average.
I would disagree a bit and say that "athletic" has not traditionally been a measure of female beauty. Healthiness and fitness are good measures. For men, health and fitness means being athletic, fit, muscular/lean (not fat), etc. Men who can provide and protect.
For women, fitness is tied to having children, and curves, hips, breasts, and a bit of a plumpness are all indicators of childearing and childrearing capability. The exact ratio of leanness to plumpness varies a bit between cultures, but it's very rarely "fat".
Shocker: most, if not all, humans agree on what makes someone attractive (especially women). Athletic body, long, luscious hair, bright, round eyes, and fair skin. We Europeans won the genetic lottery when it comes to combinations of these traits, closely followed by northeast asians, which is why everybody else on earth lusts after our women. It's only a tiny portion of westerners (and the usual suspects) in positions of media authority who try and celebrate ugliness and freakishness.
They will always fail, because they're fighting againts human nature.
Beauty is not subjective imo. 95% of women knows what beauty is because its innate. Most women love foxes and cats, not pigs and banana slugs. Foxes and cats are slender, thin waist, long limbs, triangular faces... which is the same as what the feminine traits of a sexy woman is.
Also.. show a 2 year old toddler a picture of a kitten and a picture of The Thing or some kinda grotesque entity.. pretty sure toddler instinctively will freak out over The Thing and would be happy to see the cat. Its instinctive. Same concept as males gravitates towards fire trucks and females gravitate towards dolls. Its literally instinct.
Don't know, women have a different view of what a good looking woman is, and it changes more with the times than men's taste in women.
Look at the ironing board asses that were sought in female models in the 90s vs the pinup girls on WWII planes. The pinup girls are pretty much what men still seek in a woman the most today. Still, the models of the 90s were usually top 5%, but they weren't the best of the best at attracting men like the women and gay men in the fashion industry made them out to be, just above average.
I would disagree a bit and say that "athletic" has not traditionally been a measure of female beauty. Healthiness and fitness are good measures. For men, health and fitness means being athletic, fit, muscular/lean (not fat), etc. Men who can provide and protect.
For women, fitness is tied to having children, and curves, hips, breasts, and a bit of a plumpness are all indicators of childearing and childrearing capability. The exact ratio of leanness to plumpness varies a bit between cultures, but it's very rarely "fat".
Boticelli's Venus comes to mind.
Yes, when I said 'athletic' I really meant reproductively fit, but there's a strong correlation between the two.
Yes but also counterpoint, the Venus de Milo is toned