I'll be honest, this type of "gotcha" interrogation is both ghoulish and pointless.
For the latter, the people who already agree with you won't agree with you harder. The people who disagree with you won't suddenly change their minds. The wilfully ignorant will twist themselves into pretzels to remain willfully ignorant. It accomplishes nothing.
And for the former, this really comes off like asking a gun rights advocate what his favorite way of killing someone is. Yes, yes, I know someone is just itching to shout "guns are Constitutionally Protected and abortion isn't", but let's set that aside for a second.
Quite honestly, the goal of an abortion is a dead fetus safely extracted from the host mother. The method really doesn't matter. You still get a dead fetus, whether you use a magic pill that teleports it into the sun or an industrial vacuum to remove it by parts.
And for anyone who wants to make a moral "you're killing a person" argument, understand that, for anyone who isn't an adherent to the whole "life begins at conception" idea, a fetus isn't a person; it hasn't developed any of the characteristics that define personhood besides a shared DNA structure. And, quite frankly, calling a fetus a baby in this context is trying to emotionally manipulate people by making them imagine a full grown and birthed 9+ month old infant getting shoved into a blender, instead of the weird chicken-fish hybrid looking thing that a fetus spends the first four months resembling. This adds to the ghoulishness of the interrogation, and puts people off, circling back around to the pointless nature of it.
Buddy, if you disagree but refuse to put in the effort to argue in good faith, you're the redditor you accuse others of being.
Imagine, if you can, the possibility that the constant purity spirals and ideological cleansings of social media have forced us to cohabitate, and only agree on seventy five to eighty percent of things. But if you can't, see if you can find someone to change your smoke alarm batteries, at least.
I get that modern internet discourse makes strange bedfellows but you've commented a grand total of five times in the last three years, including the two comments in this thread. I suppose it makes us wonder why you chose this topic and this take specifically.
Funny story, actually. I was using a different account for ages because I'd forgotten the password to this one, and in a strange coincidence, lost the password to that one due to file corruption and found saved credentials to this one on an old device I had around the house I was getting ready to recycle.
The stupid shit that happens when you use password manager generated passwords and refuse to provide legitimate emails when signing up for websites to shoot the shit with people you don't know and don't need to know.
Though I will chastise you on trying to creep on my post history. I don't know how or when that behavior became normalized, but it's absurd that people do that. Our older conversations were between ourselves and whomever we were speaking with at the time, and not something for random lookie-loos to ogle at at arbitrary points in the future, devoid of context and ontological involvement in the discourse.
Anyway, the actual human behind the account has been around in one coat or another for ages, and I usually make the same arguments on topics. I think this one just lacks my old block list - the same people tend to say the same nonsense around here, so you end up having far fewer arguments when you actively avoid each other.
I'll be honest, this type of "gotcha" interrogation is both ghoulish and pointless.
For the latter, the people who already agree with you won't agree with you harder. The people who disagree with you won't suddenly change their minds. The wilfully ignorant will twist themselves into pretzels to remain willfully ignorant. It accomplishes nothing.
And for the former, this really comes off like asking a gun rights advocate what his favorite way of killing someone is. Yes, yes, I know someone is just itching to shout "guns are Constitutionally Protected and abortion isn't", but let's set that aside for a second.
Quite honestly, the goal of an abortion is a dead fetus safely extracted from the host mother. The method really doesn't matter. You still get a dead fetus, whether you use a magic pill that teleports it into the sun or an industrial vacuum to remove it by parts.
And for anyone who wants to make a moral "you're killing a person" argument, understand that, for anyone who isn't an adherent to the whole "life begins at conception" idea, a fetus isn't a person; it hasn't developed any of the characteristics that define personhood besides a shared DNA structure. And, quite frankly, calling a fetus a baby in this context is trying to emotionally manipulate people by making them imagine a full grown and birthed 9+ month old infant getting shoved into a blender, instead of the weird chicken-fish hybrid looking thing that a fetus spends the first four months resembling. This adds to the ghoulishness of the interrogation, and puts people off, circling back around to the pointless nature of it.
I knew as soon as I started reading this block of text that it was going to end with a defense of abortion. Back to reddit with ye
Buddy, if you disagree but refuse to put in the effort to argue in good faith, you're the redditor you accuse others of being.
Imagine, if you can, the possibility that the constant purity spirals and ideological cleansings of social media have forced us to cohabitate, and only agree on seventy five to eighty percent of things. But if you can't, see if you can find someone to change your smoke alarm batteries, at least.
I get that modern internet discourse makes strange bedfellows but you've commented a grand total of five times in the last three years, including the two comments in this thread. I suppose it makes us wonder why you chose this topic and this take specifically.
Funny story, actually. I was using a different account for ages because I'd forgotten the password to this one, and in a strange coincidence, lost the password to that one due to file corruption and found saved credentials to this one on an old device I had around the house I was getting ready to recycle.
The stupid shit that happens when you use password manager generated passwords and refuse to provide legitimate emails when signing up for websites to shoot the shit with people you don't know and don't need to know.
Though I will chastise you on trying to creep on my post history. I don't know how or when that behavior became normalized, but it's absurd that people do that. Our older conversations were between ourselves and whomever we were speaking with at the time, and not something for random lookie-loos to ogle at at arbitrary points in the future, devoid of context and ontological involvement in the discourse.
Anyway, the actual human behind the account has been around in one coat or another for ages, and I usually make the same arguments on topics. I think this one just lacks my old block list - the same people tend to say the same nonsense around here, so you end up having far fewer arguments when you actively avoid each other.