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Same shit, different millenium (media.scored.co)
posted 38 days ago by diogenesofthearch 38 days ago by diogenesofthearch +66 / -0
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– Hematomato 16 points 38 days ago +16 / -0

It is very much not the same shit, and that Stanford professor happens to be a retard: D&D has always been an aggressively woke system. From 3E on, it recognized no differences between men and women, and the only racial differences it recognized were between different species.

And I say "From 3E on," because I know there was a brief period in 2E where women's strength was capped at 18(50) and men's was capped at 18(00) - but I'm not sure if that was in the Player's Handbook or if it was just a feature of certain early '90s video games.

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– diogenesofthearch [S] 14 points 38 days ago +14 / -0

If the newspaper clipping was from 1981 then it would have to be referring to AD&D1e or earlier. 2e was published in 1989.

All editions published after 2e weren't solely compiled by Gygax so aren't actually DnD. They're a woke troon committee created monstrosity wearing a DnD skinsuit.

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– Hematomato 7 points 38 days ago +7 / -0

Well, I checked, and the original D&D recognized no stat differences whatsoever between the sexes.

AD&D (both editions) capped women's strength at 18(50) instead of 18(00), which meant women could never lift more than 280 pounds, while men could potentially lift up to 480.

But Gygax said in an interview he never enforced that rule because the whole game was fantasy so who really gives a shit about that particular sliver of realism.

...even though in many other ways, Gygax was obsessed with realism and wanted the DM to track basically every calorie the players ate.

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– 5Cats 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

the whole game was fantasy so who really gives a shit about that particular sliver of realism.

Correct. But he was big on the "realism" of combat & weapons. That came from his tabletop game background. Economics however? When a goblin carries a year's worth of wages? Lolz. So broken.

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– That_Which_Lurks 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

This is why I kept all my 1st edition books and modules. Original DMG and PH. Not to mention MM and FF. As me about the G1-3 series and D1-3 series (followed of course, by Q1).

You're adventurers will never see the light of day again.

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– el_hoovy 5 points 38 days ago +5 / -0

yeah, once you see how it evolved into and caused a game like baldur's gate 3, which is Bear Demon Rape: The Game, you can definitely start seeing what all the "moral panics" were about.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

>D&D has always been

>From 3E on

Given the extensive racial differences from at least the era when THAC0 was still in use, I'm gonna say that's a tenuous claim.

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