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Air Canada CEO bullied into retirement for not speaking in French after crash. CTV News frames it as "Relief in Quebec". He spent 600 hrs taking French lessons but it wasn't enough for them (archive.is)
posted 67 days ago by YesMovement 67 days ago by YesMovement +33 / -0
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– horstshort 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Learning a second language isn't exactly difficult.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

It is if you want to be fluent. After 10 years old you start speaking with an accent, and after 18 grammar becomes an issue.

I talk to my parents regularly, and my extended family notice the difference between me and my brother who rarely calls.

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– YesMovement [S] 8 points 66 days ago +8 / -0

It's also especially difficult when the languages are vastly different. Even though French and English have Latin roots they're still way off- just the idea of gendered words is a big mind fuck and you just have to remember them because there's no real internal logic. Then you have adjectives and past participles changing based on gender or number, verb tenses & conjugations change a lot, formal vs informal, etc

I took French from I think grade 4 to 12 but I lived in rural Alberta so I never used it outside of French class. I barely remember any of it, it was hard to remember stuff being young and only having a few months between class, let alone all these years later never using it.

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– horstshort 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

No, it's not. It just takes time. If you don't regularly speak the language you'll get rusty. That's perfectly normal. It'll even happen to your native language if you don't speak it regularly.

Also speaking a language fluently doesn't mean you're speaking it on a perfect native level without any accent.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 8 points 66 days ago +8 / -0

Linguistic doors shut on you as you get older. Tonal languages like Mandarin become near-impossible for monotone English speakers to get right, which directly affects fluency. No amount of practice and lessons will make up for that missing neuroplasticity.

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– Hugs 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

So what? Why should it be my or anyone else's fucking responsibility to learn French to talk to a tiny minority of frogs who hate anglophones anyway? The difficulty of learning a language has no bearing whatsoever.

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– horstshort 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Are you Canadian and want to be the CEO of Air Canada? No? Then you're in luck because nobody said you should learn French anyway.

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– YesMovement [S] 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Ok, go learn Klingon then and stay fluent in it.

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– horstshort 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

OH SNAP!

Could've at least said Latin instead of a ficitional language.

Also the jokes on you. I am bilingual.

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– YesMovement [S] 6 points 66 days ago +6 / -0

In Klingon? It's a fully developed & fleshed out language, you could go learn it if it's so fucking easy and stay fluent in it despite nobody around you speaking it.

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