Intel is pretty fucked. They have no good cpu cpu for the next few generations/years... and since intel is probably being staffed with more jeets by the day, their chances of making a competitive cpu is getting lower and lower. All the skilled and knowledgeable white and asian engineers retiring or replaced by jeets and dei.
There is no excitement for their products anymore. Only OEM buys them and they sell prebuilts to unsuspecting normies.
Their ‘tick tick’ policy died about ten years ago, and they’ve been trying to stretch the concept ever since. And didn’t an entire generation of their chips (14?) wind up completely faulty unless you manually downclocked them?
They should have retooled for ARM in 2014. They deserve what they get now.
13th and 14th gen Intel processors had manufacturing contamination resulting in oxydation.
This means your chip was physically rusting from the inside-out.
Their coding for how motherboards were calibrating voltage had several problems. The CPUs were pushed too hard to try to one-up AMD in benchmarks, resulting in premature degradation ( you could tell by the wildly higher power demands and heat of Intel chips vs AMD ). They also had weird voltage jumps that took Intel months and months to gradually fix, which also caused premature degradation.
Upgrading your motherboard's BIOS today should fix the voltage problems.
It cannot fix the oxydation problems. It will happen to all CPUs that had manufacturing contamination. There should have been a recall of all affected chips, but there wasen't for some reason.
TL;DR : Intel claims they fixed all these problems. They have lied for years about these problems existing, then about having fixed those. Fuck Intel's CPUs.
P.S. : If you have an Intel's 13th or 14th gen CPU that underperforms or has stability problems, request a replacement to Intel due to known oxydation and previous voltage-regulation caused degradation. In most jurisdictions, Intel cannot just tell you ''warranty's expired'' and refuse to replace a defective product they distributed. A CPU is not supposed to die after a few years. It's supposed to vastly outlast the computer it's in becoming obsolete 10+years later.
If they refuse, tell them you will fill a complaint to your jurisdiction's consumer protection agency and file a small-claims court claim, which Intel will lose. That should make them cave.
Side note, designing chip is perhaps the ONE computer-related thing that is absolutely insanely hard to do. Modern architecture, modern software, AI, advanced in programming language (C++ for instance) have made everything else at most a 8/10 in terms of difficulty, but most likely 4-6/10.
Designing chip is still and will always be 11/10. There is a reason only one company on earth makes the most advanced AI chip (ASML) and why only one company on earth can make the best mobile/power efficient chips (TSMC)
Intel is pretty fucked. They have no good cpu cpu for the next few generations/years
Panther Lake, Intel's current mobile option, is their best laptop CPU in years. It made a huge leap forward in efficiency, and is now the better option than AMD in nearly every metric. I think people are judging Intel on their past poor performance, no different than how people treated AMD for a while. Neither is going anywhere anytime soon.
i only do desktop ;s, cant say i owned a laptop since windows vista era.. Power use/performance is just not there for pc for gaming and it is slightly better at productivity compared to AMD.
ive used intel for a decent amount of time. 4790k, 9900k and 12900k. and 3 prebuilts before the 4790k. And I really needed a new CPU since I do a lot of physics simulations for work and constantly compiling shaders.
not that AMD is fantastic.. my current AMD computer that i built 1 year ago, contains a 9950x3d and 5090, has a lot more gremlins than all at least 3 previous intel computers combined. for your last comment.. people usually do stick with one brand for long term since its something that is familiar. it takes a lot of fuckups to make people switch. i probably will look to upgrade CPU in about 4 years and GPU in about 3-5 years and i am definitely itching to go back to an intel CPU if they do something impressive.
Intel is pretty fucked. They have no good cpu cpu for the next few generations/years... and since intel is probably being staffed with more jeets by the day, their chances of making a competitive cpu is getting lower and lower. All the skilled and knowledgeable white and asian engineers retiring or replaced by jeets and dei.
There is no excitement for their products anymore. Only OEM buys them and they sell prebuilts to unsuspecting normies.
Their ‘tick tick’ policy died about ten years ago, and they’ve been trying to stretch the concept ever since. And didn’t an entire generation of their chips (14?) wind up completely faulty unless you manually downclocked them?
They should have retooled for ARM in 2014. They deserve what they get now.
13th and 14th gen Intel processors had manufacturing contamination resulting in oxydation.
This means your chip was physically rusting from the inside-out.
Their coding for how motherboards were calibrating voltage had several problems. The CPUs were pushed too hard to try to one-up AMD in benchmarks, resulting in premature degradation ( you could tell by the wildly higher power demands and heat of Intel chips vs AMD ). They also had weird voltage jumps that took Intel months and months to gradually fix, which also caused premature degradation.
Upgrading your motherboard's BIOS today should fix the voltage problems.
It cannot fix the oxydation problems. It will happen to all CPUs that had manufacturing contamination. There should have been a recall of all affected chips, but there wasen't for some reason.
TL;DR : Intel claims they fixed all these problems. They have lied for years about these problems existing, then about having fixed those. Fuck Intel's CPUs.
P.S. : If you have an Intel's 13th or 14th gen CPU that underperforms or has stability problems, request a replacement to Intel due to known oxydation and previous voltage-regulation caused degradation. In most jurisdictions, Intel cannot just tell you ''warranty's expired'' and refuse to replace a defective product they distributed. A CPU is not supposed to die after a few years. It's supposed to vastly outlast the computer it's in becoming obsolete 10+years later.
If they refuse, tell them you will fill a complaint to your jurisdiction's consumer protection agency and file a small-claims court claim, which Intel will lose. That should make them cave.
Ah, that’s what it was. Thanks for explaining.
Shame the replacement requirement wasn’t around back when Nvidia had the problem with the 8600M.
Side note, designing chip is perhaps the ONE computer-related thing that is absolutely insanely hard to do. Modern architecture, modern software, AI, advanced in programming language (C++ for instance) have made everything else at most a 8/10 in terms of difficulty, but most likely 4-6/10.
Designing chip is still and will always be 11/10. There is a reason only one company on earth makes the most advanced AI chip (ASML) and why only one company on earth can make the best mobile/power efficient chips (TSMC)
Intel doesn't hold a candle to any of them.
Panther Lake, Intel's current mobile option, is their best laptop CPU in years. It made a huge leap forward in efficiency, and is now the better option than AMD in nearly every metric. I think people are judging Intel on their past poor performance, no different than how people treated AMD for a while. Neither is going anywhere anytime soon.
i only do desktop ;s, cant say i owned a laptop since windows vista era.. Power use/performance is just not there for pc for gaming and it is slightly better at productivity compared to AMD.
ive used intel for a decent amount of time. 4790k, 9900k and 12900k. and 3 prebuilts before the 4790k. And I really needed a new CPU since I do a lot of physics simulations for work and constantly compiling shaders.
not that AMD is fantastic.. my current AMD computer that i built 1 year ago, contains a 9950x3d and 5090, has a lot more gremlins than all at least 3 previous intel computers combined. for your last comment.. people usually do stick with one brand for long term since its something that is familiar. it takes a lot of fuckups to make people switch. i probably will look to upgrade CPU in about 4 years and GPU in about 3-5 years and i am definitely itching to go back to an intel CPU if they do something impressive.