Overton window of quality shifting - 2000s movies being praised
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I had 2004's Starsky & Hutch remake with Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, Carmen Electra, Amy Smart, Vince Vaughn, Jason Bateman & Snoop Dogg on in the background yesterday.
It's this uncanny valley time capsule of an absurd time that no longer exists. A whole era of campy buddy & romantic comedies with repeating typecast characters with Stiller playing the neurotic Jew, Wilson the Cali stoner archetype with the messy mop & broken nose, Vince Vaughn playing the same lovable a-hole, Amy Smart being a baddie until she ages out, etc.
I don't even know any of the people anymore I would've enjoyed this with. The one liners are cringe but familiar. The little serenade snippets of Wilson playing guitar were also familiar but also so foreign now.
Most of the cast is White. Or at least (((white))).
It doesn’t seem like this film should be almost 25 years old, but it is.
The ending has a cameo with the OG Starksy & Hutch actors meeting Stiller & Wilson as doppelgangers. Only Wilson & Stiller are now as old as the old fucks they were supposedly revering in the finale. I won't bother to look it up, but the OG actors could very well be dead.
Modern day Pedowood has stopped making buddy/raunchy/absurdist/formulaic/typecast comedies altogether. And no one really definitively knows why.
Who is the modern day Stiller & Wilson? If there isn't, did any other buddy comedy duos succeed them before going extinct?
Does Adam Sandler still make Adam Sandler movies? What happened to Will Ferrell? Did he just age out? (He was on SNL in the 90s).
Adam Sandler still makes Adam Sandler movies. He makes them for Netflix.
Thanks. That's what I figured.
It if it's on a streaming service, it doesn't exist in my world.
Yeah don't get me wrong, there's plenty of movies I can go back to and love from that time period, but I just think the 2000s wasn't great as a time for "films". But 100% with the non-woke, non-"diverse" comedy movies that are just meant to be fun.
Waiting (2005) is like that for me where I can rewatch it and it feels totally like a time capsure. There's only one non-white guy in the entire movie. A single black guy who is the dishwasher. Edit: forgot it's got Luiz Gomez hispanic guy who's one of the chefs, so two out of the entire cast.
Also I may get crap for this, but I like the movie Employee of the Month starring Dane Cook. I know everyone's supposed to hate Dane Cook and I know Employee of the Month is objectively a movie made for 14 year olds, but it's just a feel good type comedy that they made back then that are really re-watchable in my opinion.
Also one of the greatest movies ever made in my opinion K-Pax is in the 2000s, 2001. K-Pax is a masterpiece I'd put in my top ten films of all time.
But yeah 2000s had better comedies than I gave them credit for at the time. In some ways 90s comedies, as much as I loved them, haven't aged as well as the 2000s comedies. Like Dumb and Dumber is still the greatest comedy of all time and it was 90s, but 2000s was way better for comedies than I gave it credit for back then; Step Brothers, Hot Rod, Waiting, Van Wilder, Just Friends.
A lot of those have aged better than a lot of the 90s comedies I loved.
I guess that's true. I generally am fond of the 2000s as a time period, so it's interesting to see people talk about movies from that period.
On the topic of 2000s movies, I will note that as the 2000s slowly ended there was an influx of infamous movies by Friedberg and Seltzer that are sometimes credited with contributing to the death of the parody film genre, Disaster Movie in particular. I think it could be described as a pretty notable harbinger of the death of classic comedy movies.
I recall Zoolander was so culturally influential for us in the 90s.
Then I hyped it up & sat down with someone for a first watch a decade later. It was awkward silence for everyone involved.
Then there was Zoolander 2 another decade later that I don't recall a single gag. And never finished.
If you didn't laugh at the freak gasoline fight then you must repair your soul
You (or a different jannie?) said to my banned alt (sillyrascal1660) that you would unban it.
You never did.
Why?