My guess IF true, China has been saying to knock it off attacking the energy infrastructure THEY also rely on. Hearing word China is withholding exporting oil already.
The thing is, I haven't heard the US or Israel (like they'd be ALLOWED) launching any of the attacks from Gulf state bases.
Plus at the end of this, I'm betting the Gilf states try to order MORE patriot air defence systems, laser and microwave drone defense as they'll NEVER trust Iran again after this.
From where do you think they used the Himars launchers against Iran? Arizona? And whose airspace is the US/Israel using for their bombing runs against Iran? They're not going around the Arabian peninsula that much I can promise you.
The Gulf states are 100% complicit in the war against Iran. All the radar installations were there for a reason and it wasn't to defend the Gulf states.
The thing is, I haven't heard the US or Israel (like they'd be ALLOWED) launching any of the attacks from Gulf state bases.
You do realize the U.S. has had to bounce around all the way to Cyprus? Why do you think this is? Also, even ignoring the physical aspect of launch and re-fueling, you're also ignoring other logistics such as intelligence (radar, etc.). The Arab countries constantly say something while meaning another.
Plus at the end of this, I'm betting the Gilf states try to order MORE patriot air defence systems, laser and microwave drone defense [...]
Azerbaijan and other countries have been contemplating becoming more active in the conflict. Maybe that's the reason for this turn? I don't know, China and India aren't happy, and they are BRICS countries but they also realize the existential crisis.
Anyway, good luck to the Arab countries wanting more Patriot systems. They're useless without the missiles, which we don't make enough of within a given year, each intercept takes 2+ missiles (Israel sometimes launching 8 or 10), cost ~$4M per missile IIRC, and are useless against ballistics. They do well enough against super slow drones and cruise missiles though, and decoys.
BTW, I saw some footage of the "Iron Laser Beam" once. Not sure if that was real, but it seemed useless. All these anti-defense technologies are worthless until provably good. THAAD and the rest "mature" AD so far is pathetic; Israel knows first hand, and countries also have to re-think over-reliance with U.S. because they're not defended, Israel is, and stockpiles are re-distributed to Israel in times of crunch. South Korea also learning about this first-hand.
as they'll NEVER trust Iran again after this.
Saudi Arabia wanted Iran proverbially nuked off the face of the Earth but have been engaged in optics just like everyone else. Recently, Iran praised them for being so understanding and restrained despite Iran's attack on their U.S. assets, and it turned out within hours (4? 12? 24?) that an Israeli transponder hadn't been turned off, and landed in the kingdom... There has never been "trust" or whatever you think with Iran of all countries. They, the Houthis, and Hezbollah are utterly despised by Arabs.
I know the UK was working on using microwaves to defend against drones by using that to fry the electronics and since it's something like that, it's EXTREMELY cost effective.
That seems to be the pattern nowadays as why there is also an interest in lasers. States like Iran, China and to an extent Russia rely on overwhelming through sheer numbers. If you can take out drones with microwaves and lasers and I know Japan has a working railgun they want to use as missile defence, if blunts swarm tactics. For now US and Israel between bombing Iranian leadership seems to be focusing on launch and production facilities.
My guess IF true, China has been saying to knock it off attacking the energy infrastructure THEY also rely on. Hearing word China is withholding exporting oil already.
The language used suggests that they'll only be off limits unless the US is still using them as a staging ground.
It's a try at twisting their wrists. And if that's the case it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
The thing is, I haven't heard the US or Israel (like they'd be ALLOWED) launching any of the attacks from Gulf state bases.
Plus at the end of this, I'm betting the Gilf states try to order MORE patriot air defence systems, laser and microwave drone defense as they'll NEVER trust Iran again after this.
From where do you think they used the Himars launchers against Iran? Arizona? And whose airspace is the US/Israel using for their bombing runs against Iran? They're not going around the Arabian peninsula that much I can promise you.
The Gulf states are 100% complicit in the war against Iran. All the radar installations were there for a reason and it wasn't to defend the Gulf states.
What that statement means remains to be seen.
And Iran just attacked US assets in Bahrain again. Guess that answers that question.
You do realize the U.S. has had to bounce around all the way to Cyprus? Why do you think this is? Also, even ignoring the physical aspect of launch and re-fueling, you're also ignoring other logistics such as intelligence (radar, etc.). The Arab countries constantly say something while meaning another.
Azerbaijan and other countries have been contemplating becoming more active in the conflict. Maybe that's the reason for this turn? I don't know, China and India aren't happy, and they are BRICS countries but they also realize the existential crisis.
Anyway, good luck to the Arab countries wanting more Patriot systems. They're useless without the missiles, which we don't make enough of within a given year, each intercept takes 2+ missiles (Israel sometimes launching 8 or 10), cost ~$4M per missile IIRC, and are useless against ballistics. They do well enough against super slow drones and cruise missiles though, and decoys.
BTW, I saw some footage of the "Iron
LaserBeam" once. Not sure if that was real, but it seemed useless. All these anti-defense technologies are worthless until provably good. THAAD and the rest "mature" AD so far is pathetic; Israel knows first hand, and countries also have to re-think over-reliance with U.S. because they're not defended, Israel is, and stockpiles are re-distributed to Israel in times of crunch. South Korea also learning about this first-hand.Saudi Arabia wanted Iran proverbially nuked off the face of the Earth but have been engaged in optics just like everyone else. Recently, Iran praised them for being so understanding and restrained despite Iran's attack on their U.S. assets, and it turned out within hours (4? 12? 24?) that an Israeli transponder hadn't been turned off, and landed in the kingdom... There has never been "trust" or whatever you think with Iran of all countries. They, the Houthis, and Hezbollah are utterly despised by Arabs.
I know the UK was working on using microwaves to defend against drones by using that to fry the electronics and since it's something like that, it's EXTREMELY cost effective.
That seems to be the pattern nowadays as why there is also an interest in lasers. States like Iran, China and to an extent Russia rely on overwhelming through sheer numbers. If you can take out drones with microwaves and lasers and I know Japan has a working railgun they want to use as missile defence, if blunts swarm tactics. For now US and Israel between bombing Iranian leadership seems to be focusing on launch and production facilities.
No comment except "gilf" states is a hell of a typo.
Haha, I'm leaving that in lol. Anyway heard a drone just hit Dubai airport so they seem to be full of shit already.
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