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TheZognald right now: "It's all Obama's fault. Trump is cleaning up his mess!" (media.scored.co)
posted 95 days ago by Shadys_Back 95 days ago by Shadys_Back +32 / -0
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– Smith1980 10 points 95 days ago +10 / -0

Not a fan of Trump’s action in Iran and not actually putting America first, but wasn’t the Obama deal just paying them lots of money? Not a fan of Obama due to his race obsession for one thing. As well as the usual big government mindset that Trump has as well. Looks stupid for people to blame Obama at this point though

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– Shadys_Back [S] 14 points 95 days ago +14 / -0

... wasn’t the Obama deal just paying them lots of money?

No, the funds were Iranian assets that had been frozen/ seized for decades by the U.S. It was their sanctions relief in exchange for them allowing UN, EU, and U.S. inspectors, 24/7 cameras on their nuclear facilities, restricted uranium enrichment to only 3.67%, etc. The deal ensured that they only ever used their reactors for civilian energy. It was a good deal, which Obama negotiated without Israhell and had to wait until the end of his career to do, which they hated him for doing.

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– Smith1980 7 points 95 days ago +7 / -0

Gotcha. I remember that uranium restriction and Ron Paul praised the deal as long as it holds. As I said, I don’t care for the other stuff with Obama like the race obsession, big govt guy like 99% of politicians, abortion stance, etc

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– 5Cats 1 point 95 days ago +1 / -0

Iran broke the deal within 2 weeks. Testing ballistic missiles & stuff. They also never actually allowed inspections since they decided where the inspectors were 'allowed" to go. That wasn't part of the agreement.
They got $1.7B in free, unrestricted money & promptly increased funding to their terrorist proxies.
& etc.
Yes, it is all Obama's fault. The "agreement" actually ensured Iran would have nuclear weapons within 15 years. They never once even pretended to build civilian nuclear power.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 95 days ago +6 / -0

Pretty sure that was just their own money.

Now, I know that some of the supposed right these days is very enthusiastic about stealing other people's oil and money, but I'm not a fan. Also, abusing your financial position gets you blowback - which is why they didn't even do it in WW2 AFAIK.

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– Smith1980 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

It was their own money? Well I’ll take your word for it. Like I said my issues with Obama were other things like his race obsession and not condemning racial riots that started with false pretenses (Michael brown for instance). Also he is a big government politician like the rest

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 95 days ago +7 / -0

Well I’ll take your word for it.

Oh, never do that - people are either stupid or untrustworthy. But my understanding is that these are Iranian funds that were frozen by US financial institutions or at US orders. Just like they did with $300 billion of Russian reserves. Obviously, the US isn't going to pay Iran to make a deal. That's just preposterous, but the Fixed Noise viewers will believe anything. Only Egypt gets money for making a deal, and that is because that deal benefits Israel.

Also he is a big government politician like the rest

And a neocon that started the dirty war in Syria that decimated the Christian population there, and flooded Europe with "refugees".

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– Smith1980 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

Well I’ll check it out later. Right about the refugees

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– Shadys_Back [S] 6 points 95 days ago +6 / -0

It was their own money, plus interest.

Separate from the nuclear deal (JCPOA), the U.S. settled a 37-year-old legal dispute over a failed arms deal from the 1970s. The principal ($400 million) was Iran’s own money, originally paid to the U.S. for military equipment before the 1979 Revolution. The equipment was never delivered, and the U.S. froze the funds. $1.3 billion was the negotiated interest accrued over nearly 40 years. U.S. lawyers argued that settling was better than risking a much higher ruling (potentially billions more) from an international tribunal at The Hague. Because of existing sanctions and the lack of a SWIFT banking relationship, the $400 million was delivered in physical pallets of foreign currency (Euros and Swiss Francs) on an unmarked plane.

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– TheMafia 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

just paying them lots of money?

Yea, that's just called "solving problems" in the adult world.

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– Smith1980 1 point 95 days ago +1 / -0

Thank you. I was aware of that basic fact but I haven’t thought in any depth about the Obama Iran deal since it happened so that was my recollection and they gave me more info

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