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– ernsithe 21 points 100 days ago +21 / -0

Mass texting people using AI is a violation of robocall laws

Nowhere in this image does it say he was texting people. Zillow has a mechanism for making offers.
People listing their homes on those platforms are soliciting contact and offers. "Text me with an offer" means it's not a "telephonic sales call."
Even if neither of those were true

Telephonic sales call” includes a telephone call, text message, or voicemail transmission for the purpose of soliciting a sale of any consumer goods or services, soliciting an extension of credit for consumer goods or services, or obtaining information that will or may be used for the direct solicitation of a sale of consumer goods or services or an extension of credit for such purposes.

Offering to PURCHASE something for sale doesn't count as a robocall under the Florida definition.

This probably didn't happen. But everyone still clapped.

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– Stagecoach 2 points 100 days ago +2 / -0

Yes, I think it's likely fake too, but if it were real:

Zillow messaging doesn't have a public API that OpenClaw can hook into, so it's unlikely that OpenClaw would be able to take advantage of Zillow's messaging system in that way. In order to do something like this, he would likely have to seek out listings where the owner themselves gave their contact info. If he did use Zillow for this somehow, then that would at the very least be a violation of their ToS and could make for a civil case. Since he said he's doing this to make people "panic", then that could be used to make a case for harassment.
They are giving consent for offers, but not for automated messaging, which is a different category of consent. Using AI to send messages would constitute automated messaging.
While that is true that the law generally applies to businesses offering to sell services, automated messaging for making offers on real estate can potentially be interpreted as commercial solicitation under TCPA.

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– ernsithe 1 point 99 days ago +1 / -0

can potentially be interpreted as commercial solicitation under TCPA.

I'm no lawyer, but the federal TCPA's wording is similar.

(4) The term “telephone solicitation” means the initiation of a telephone call or message for the purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or investment in, property, goods, or services, which is transmitted to any person, but such term does not include a call or message (A) to any person with that person's prior express invitation or permission, (B) to any person with whom the caller has an established business relationship, or (C) by a tax exempt nonprofit organization.

(5) The term “unsolicited advertisement” means any material advertising the commercial availability or quality of any property, goods, or services which is transmitted to any person without that person's prior express invitation or permission, in writing or otherwise.

I guess you could try to stretch it to say you're encouraging them to facilitate his purchase of property, but that doesn't seem to be the intent IMHO. Maybe you could make an argument that he's advertising that currency is a good that's available to them?

If someone wanted to go after him, and he did use the phone system. Maybe obscene/harassing call statutes work better.

makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or communication ensues, without disclosing his identity and with intent to abuse, threaten, or harass any specific person;

Like you say, his self-professed intent is causing panic.

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