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Generative AI is used for therapy & companionship more than anything else. How will this affect human relationships in 20 years' time? (media.scored.co)
posted 145 days ago by Zyxl 145 days ago by Zyxl +19 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 17 points 145 days ago +17 / -0

People using AI for therapy and companionship is more a symptom than a cause of trouble.

I don't think any non-basketcase is going to use AI like that to begin with.

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– Zyxl [S] 8 points 145 days ago +8 / -0

Well either you're wrong or there are a lot of basketcases to make this the number 1 use already. This is before the LLMs have long term memory or any physical form. It's only going to get smarter and more human-like with time. At which point even the most intelligent person will be using it for companionship, especially if the other real people are pre-occupied with AI companions.

And even if this is only a symptom of an underlying problem, it's surely going to make the problem much worse.

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– Vicious_snek6 11 points 145 days ago +11 / -0

Well either you're wrong or there are a lot of basketcases to make this the number 1 use already.

Therapy is a 'sacrament' of the left now.

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– Zyxl [S] 5 points 145 days ago +5 / -0

For sure. But they will also use the word to include talking about problems with a friend, which is perfectly normal. Now the AI is replacing both the professional therapist and the friend. I'm not concerned about the professional therapists (who are pretty useless) but the friends that will no longer be made or kept.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 145 days ago +4 / -0

Or maybe this is all just an unsustainable bubble, as some people argue. I have no way of deciding who is right.

FWIW, they do have long-term memory (which I have disabled because it's damn annoying).

(downvotes aren't from me, I enjoy being challenged)

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– Zyxl [S] 7 points 145 days ago +7 / -0

Last I read ChatGPT has a max memory of 24,000 words. I don't call that long term memory at all, that's just a couple of essays long. It's not enough to remember all the stuff you've told it as your best friend over even a single year.

AI may be in a bubble, but economics won't end it, just slow it down. The only thing that can end it is public hostility to it, which is exactly what we need if human relationships, society, mental health and so on are to survive.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 145 days ago +4 / -0

Last I read ChatGPT has a max memory of 24,000 words. I don't call that long term memory at all, that's just a couple of essays long. It's not enough to remember all the stuff you've told it as your best friend over even a single year.

500 words is one page. That's quite a bit. I don't think everything everyone in the world knows about me would amount to 48 pages. And of course, your best friend doesn't remember everything. (But he does it a whole lot better than ChatGPT.)

AI may be in a bubble, but economics won't end it, just slow it down.

GPUs, electricity. They are apparently using so much to drive up the price on everything. This thing isn't profitable, is my understanding. The expectation that it will become massively profitable is the reason people are putting so much into it. But I don't really see how, which may be a me-problem. I don't assume I'm smarter than people putting $100 billion on the line, but I don't assume they're always right either.

The only thing that can end it is public hostility to it, which is exactly what we need if human relationships, society, mental health and so on are to survive.

I certainly do agree that we need more public hostility towards AI, even though I don't think it will lead to all that. It making everything slightly or greatly worse is reason enough.

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– Ender910 1 point 144 days ago +1 / -0

There's a lot of ways to store a lot of data for an LLM to utilize, to simulate long-term memory. WorldData/WorldInfo, summarization, exporting-importing details into an external xml or javascript, etc. And ChatGPT isn't the best metric when it comes to workaround solutions and out of the box implementation.

Not that I think it's as drastic of a risk or problem as people seem to fearmonger over. Usually such fearmongering is intended to protect idiots from themselves, but idiots are doomed to do stupid things one way or another, regardless of what tools they're using.

A good analogy of how it can be used or misused would be some holodeck programs and hologram interactions in Star Trek. In the right hands it can be a handy simulation to stir up some inspiration and new ideas, just due to the "RNG" mix of potential responses. In other hands you might have... Janeway or Barclay (in the first episode he was in anyway).

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– undecidedmask2 4 points 145 days ago +4 / -0

I agree. Fix the root causes and it will disappear.

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– LinnocenceDeLame 1 point 144 days ago +1 / -0

Ai are betters than 95% of therapists lol

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