Star Trek: Enterprise looks better and better with each passing year by comparison.
shudders
While I admittedly watched all the JJTrek movies (and in order, OK, STUPID, Meh) I could only get through 3 episodes of Discovery before I stopped watching any of that drek. Except for a few minutes of Section 31, which was more of a "let's go check out that train wreck", A few episodes Star Trek New Worlds which I was told was good by friends (Nope) and Picard Season 3.
ST:SNW clearly has people putting effort into telling a Star Trek story, but do not actually understand why Star Trek is good without the perspective of a Southern California Theater Kid.
I still maintain that Enterprise is the greatest miss in the franchise history. The concept is actually fucking epic, and would force the show to philosophically fight with Liberal Idealism and harsh reality. It should have been an occasional occurrence to lose crew members, permanently, in their journey to underscore the difficulty of the mission, and the sacrifice required. Season 3 tried to tell that story and kept getting hung up on cliche.
I disagree that Enterprise is the greatest miss in the franchise history as ALL of the JJTrek product falls far, far below that.
Enterprise wasn't great but it was following in the footsteps of the degredation that started near the end of DS9, accelerated with Voyager and then became the weak sauce that is Enterprise. I can't help but roll my eyes with "Well Voyager wuz woke!" - Yes... yes it was, no argument there! For TOS I can point to dozens of memorable episodes, TNG has fewer but still great high points, DS9 has fewer than TNG but still has some really excellent stories in there. Voyager? There's only one episode that stands out to me (2 if you count "Threshold" and that's not because I liked it... and also had to look up the episode) Enterprise had nothing memorable except the disastrous finale. (although I liked Manny Coto's attempts near the end and I liked his work on Odyssey 5)
Personally I think the trend of Star Trek here follows our society's descent into dumbing down our society and promoting communism.
It wasn't "woke" as we know it today with all the transgenderism (although TNG had an episode that dealt with that and, of course, "conversion therapy") But it was woke in the sense that they "abandoned all currency and the desire for things" in TNG (and brought back capitalism in DS9 with the Ferengi). All villainous groups were shown to be ultimately just misunderstood good people.
Discovery was the greatest miss. A chance like TNG had to update the show for the new future but they changed it from a promising premise being about a Fed/Klingon hybrid ship set well in the future from VOY/TNG films for another fucking prequel, starring a black woman named Mike who was Spock's adopted sister.
And they made the Klingons look weird and didn't even show the title ship in the 1st episode.
I'll grant you that there was a chance to reboot the franchise out of the Boomer Truth regime, but it never actually had a chance that Hollywood writers would have even made the attempt.
shudders
While I admittedly watched all the JJTrek movies (and in order, OK, STUPID, Meh) I could only get through 3 episodes of Discovery before I stopped watching any of that drek. Except for a few minutes of Section 31, which was more of a "let's go check out that train wreck", A few episodes Star Trek New Worlds which I was told was good by friends (Nope) and Picard Season 3.
ST:SNW clearly has people putting effort into telling a Star Trek story, but do not actually understand why Star Trek is good without the perspective of a Southern California Theater Kid.
I still maintain that Enterprise is the greatest miss in the franchise history. The concept is actually fucking epic, and would force the show to philosophically fight with Liberal Idealism and harsh reality. It should have been an occasional occurrence to lose crew members, permanently, in their journey to underscore the difficulty of the mission, and the sacrifice required. Season 3 tried to tell that story and kept getting hung up on cliche.
I disagree that Enterprise is the greatest miss in the franchise history as ALL of the JJTrek product falls far, far below that.
Enterprise wasn't great but it was following in the footsteps of the degredation that started near the end of DS9, accelerated with Voyager and then became the weak sauce that is Enterprise. I can't help but roll my eyes with "Well Voyager wuz woke!" - Yes... yes it was, no argument there! For TOS I can point to dozens of memorable episodes, TNG has fewer but still great high points, DS9 has fewer than TNG but still has some really excellent stories in there. Voyager? There's only one episode that stands out to me (2 if you count "Threshold" and that's not because I liked it... and also had to look up the episode) Enterprise had nothing memorable except the disastrous finale. (although I liked Manny Coto's attempts near the end and I liked his work on Odyssey 5)
Personally I think the trend of Star Trek here follows our society's descent into dumbing down our society and promoting communism.
Eh, JJTrek was always going to fail, so I don't consider it a "miss" per say. Just a regular failure.
Star Trek was never "woke" it was just liberal and progressive, but it always was.
I agree that it's descent mirrors are push towards communism. At least Hollywood's.
It wasn't "woke" as we know it today with all the transgenderism (although TNG had an episode that dealt with that and, of course, "conversion therapy") But it was woke in the sense that they "abandoned all currency and the desire for things" in TNG (and brought back capitalism in DS9 with the Ferengi). All villainous groups were shown to be ultimately just misunderstood good people.
Shame Manny Coto died, he seemed to have some idea of what Star Trek was supposed to be at least.
Discovery was the greatest miss. A chance like TNG had to update the show for the new future but they changed it from a promising premise being about a Fed/Klingon hybrid ship set well in the future from VOY/TNG films for another fucking prequel, starring a black woman named Mike who was Spock's adopted sister.
And they made the Klingons look weird and didn't even show the title ship in the 1st episode.
I'll grant you that there was a chance to reboot the franchise out of the Boomer Truth regime, but it never actually had a chance that Hollywood writers would have even made the attempt.