Saying to themselves: "Under no circumstance should we allow anyone to start an unwinnable, genocidal, race war on our behalf."
So basically, you're saying here what leftists students said after October 7. Israel should not have been waging a genocidal war on Gazans, and then October 7 wouldn't have happened.
I'm not saying what's happened to them is good
Did something happen to them? Or did someone do something to them?
if anyone had asked me: "Giz, what do you think Israel's response would be to a massive Hamas led offensive the emphasized rampant brutality against civilians?" I could have told them.
Of course. And what do you think the response to 80 years of rampant brutality against civilians would be?
Israel wasn't conducting a genocide on October 6th. They just claim it is to support an attempt at genocide.
And what do you think the response to 80 years of rampant brutality against civilians would be?
I'm not going to justify a genocide against all jews in Israel because of a conflict that exists almost entirely created by Leftists Islamic Nationalists, and funded by Pan-Arabism, for the purposes of destroying the state of Israel.
This isn't that different from saying "Britain's children deserve to get raped for the UK's participation in the invasion of Iraq."
Israel wasn't conducting a genocide on October 6th
It was engaging in repellent brutality against a civilian population, which you condemn when you can blame a US adversary for it.
I'm not going to justify a genocide against all jews in Israel
Did someone ask you to? Note that I just mirrored your own argument. And you interpreted it was support for October 7, the killing of 1200 people. So can you take stock of what it is that you are doing when you make the same argument to try to explain the killing of 100,000 people?
because of a conflict that exists almost entirely created by Leftists Islamic Nationalists, and funded by Pan-Arabism
Really? The conflict exists because Zionists decided that they were entitled to a state on someone else's land, and that they have a God-given right to kick other people out of their homes and crush their children's heads with bulldozers. So believing you, without "Leftist Islamic Nationalists", people would say: oh sure, come crush my child's head with a bulldozer, steal my land and ethnically cleanse my from my ancestral land.
This isn't that different from saying "Britain's children deserve to get raped for the UK's participation in the invasion of Iraq."
It's very different, because the British are on their own land. Even so, no one said anyone deserves to be raped, except for Israeli lawmakers.
Note that I just mirrored your own argument. And you interpreted it was support for October 7, the killing of 1200 people. So can you take stock of what it is that you are doing when you make the same argument to try to explain the killing of 100,000 people?
Are you asking me to support Regime Change in Israel? I mean, we could, but I don't know that there's anyone worth leading it.
The conflict exists because Zionists decided that they were entitled to a state on someone else's land, and that they have a God-given right to kick other people out of their homes and crush their children's heads with bulldozers. So believing you, without "Leftist Islamic Nationalists", people would say: oh sure, come crush my child's head with a bulldozer, steal my land and ethnically cleanse my from my ancestral land.
The Palestine movement has been fraudulent from the beginning. It's attaching itself to people who lost a revolution and a civil war. Their sole purpose is the violent overthrow of Israel, and a genocide of the jews. They are used as a weapon to destabilize the state.
It's very different, because the British are on their own land. Even so, no one said anyone deserves to be raped, except for Israeli lawmakers.
A lot of the Pakistani rapists and their families claim the children deserve to be raped for being whores.
Are you asking me to support Regime Change in Israel? I mean, we could, but I don't know that there's anyone worth leading it.
Apparently, I can't post clearly if my life depended on it.
You asserted that Gazans being slaughtered en masse should have led them to believe "jeez, maybe we should never fight back against the people who did that, because fighting back led to this". So I asked you: should October 7 have led Israelis to conclude that they shouldn't have carried out atrocities against Palestinians for decades? An exact mirror of your question, but you thought that was an invitation to "justify genocide". If my question justifies genocide, yours would have all the more, not? But that wasn't even my point, only that these are double standards.
Regime change anywhere did not factor in.
The Palestine movement has been fraudulent from the beginning. It's attaching itself to people who lost a revolution and a civil war. Their sole purpose is the violent overthrow of Israel, and a genocide of the jews
Is this blood libel? The native population isn't just going to disappear, no matter how much you wish for it.
A lot of the Pakistani rapists and their families claim the children deserve to be raped for being whores.
So basically, you're saying here what leftists students said after October 7. Israel should not have been waging a genocidal war on Gazans, and then October 7 wouldn't have happened.
Did something happen to them? Or did someone do something to them?
Of course. And what do you think the response to 80 years of rampant brutality against civilians would be?
Israel wasn't conducting a genocide on October 6th. They just claim it is to support an attempt at genocide.
I'm not going to justify a genocide against all jews in Israel because of a conflict that exists almost entirely created by Leftists Islamic Nationalists, and funded by Pan-Arabism, for the purposes of destroying the state of Israel.
This isn't that different from saying "Britain's children deserve to get raped for the UK's participation in the invasion of Iraq."
It was engaging in repellent brutality against a civilian population, which you condemn when you can blame a US adversary for it.
Did someone ask you to? Note that I just mirrored your own argument. And you interpreted it was support for October 7, the killing of 1200 people. So can you take stock of what it is that you are doing when you make the same argument to try to explain the killing of 100,000 people?
Really? The conflict exists because Zionists decided that they were entitled to a state on someone else's land, and that they have a God-given right to kick other people out of their homes and crush their children's heads with bulldozers. So believing you, without "Leftist Islamic Nationalists", people would say: oh sure, come crush my child's head with a bulldozer, steal my land and ethnically cleanse my from my ancestral land.
It's very different, because the British are on their own land. Even so, no one said anyone deserves to be raped, except for Israeli lawmakers.
Are you asking me to support Regime Change in Israel? I mean, we could, but I don't know that there's anyone worth leading it.
The Palestine movement has been fraudulent from the beginning. It's attaching itself to people who lost a revolution and a civil war. Their sole purpose is the violent overthrow of Israel, and a genocide of the jews. They are used as a weapon to destabilize the state.
A lot of the Pakistani rapists and their families claim the children deserve to be raped for being whores.
Apparently, I can't post clearly if my life depended on it.
You asserted that Gazans being slaughtered en masse should have led them to believe "jeez, maybe we should never fight back against the people who did that, because fighting back led to this". So I asked you: should October 7 have led Israelis to conclude that they shouldn't have carried out atrocities against Palestinians for decades? An exact mirror of your question, but you thought that was an invitation to "justify genocide". If my question justifies genocide, yours would have all the more, not? But that wasn't even my point, only that these are double standards.
Regime change anywhere did not factor in.
Is this blood libel? The native population isn't just going to disappear, no matter how much you wish for it.
They'd make great Israeli lawmakers then.