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If he’s serious about this he’s going to completely lose the youth support. This is just boomer vampirism on steroids. (twitter.com)
posted 214 days ago by Ahaus667 214 days ago by Ahaus667 +86 / -0
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– Unknownsailor 49 points 214 days ago +49 / -0

As usual, Trump absolutely fails to understand the real issue, which is INTEREST. It should be f***ing ILLEGAL to charge 125% of the borrowed amount in interest for a mortgage, but that is exactly what every bank does, on every 30 year note it issues.

Go plug in these stats into any mortgage calculator, and see for yourself: 6.2% 30 year fixed with 20% down on a $400k house.

Amortization figures:

Monthly loan payment: $1959.90 - no property tax or home insurance, just the loan.

Loan amount: $320,000

Total Interest Paid: $385,564 <- that, right there, should be illegal! 120% the borrowed amount!

Total cost of loan: $705,564

Usury must be made illegal again, this is highway robbery.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 25 points 214 days ago +25 / -0

Yes, but with the 50 year mortgage home prices will go up another 130% because starter homes are still not being built, while people sign up to pay $1 million in interest, default and collapse the market (again!).

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– HallucinatoryBeing 15 points 214 days ago +15 / -0

As long as the payments are some low number within their monthly wages, they don't care. Interest? That's someone else's problem, an abstraction inconceivable to the Eternal Now.

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– Maskurbator 7 points 214 days ago +7 / -0

I want to agree but it also is the homeowner CHOOSING to take three decades to pay it off.

So for the benefit of taking a third of a century, that's the cost.

Keep in mind you are not forced to take the full 30 years. You can pay it off earlier. It really is a restriction on the lender not on the borrower. The borrower can take out a 30 yr mortgage and pay it off in 12 months if they were inclined and able.

Let's say it wasn't a percent. What if the agreement was, you can take up to thirty years to pay off the loan, but so long as the principal hasn't been paid, every month I charge you a flat fee of $X. Would that be acceptable?

Amortization tables can be done for free in one minute on a hundred websites. It's not voodoo. Anyone can do it. We either need to accept that borrowers are responsible for their actions OR decide some people are too fucking stupid to take out debt and also rescind their voting rights, driving privileges, among other things. But we can't have a system where an individual can vote and drink and drive and smoke and own an AR-15, but CANT be expected to understand a the terms of a fucking mortgage.

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– Unknownsailor 6 points 213 days ago +6 / -0

Lender is only able to charge 20% max over borrowed amount, spread over 360 payments. GAAP rules need to be changed to account for this, as right now banks make money over the term of the loan based on the interest paid by the lender every month, which is also why mortgage interest is front loaded into loan repayment amortization schedules.

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– Maskurbator 3 points 213 days ago +3 / -0

Does that mean if the principal is $100, the bank can charge $20? (100+20)

Or does it mean the bank can charge $120? (100+120)

Genuinely asking.

And under what circumstances?

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– Greenblatts_4skin 3 points 213 days ago +3 / -0

mortgage interest is front loaded into loan repayment amortization schedules.

and that is total complete BS too

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– Ahaus667 [S] 2 points 213 days ago +2 / -0

This is all ignoring that the government is the one paying the front risk for home loans to begin with. The fact banks have the audacity to charge interest, which was created to mitigate risk they don’t actually incur, makes the entire system redundant and quite literally a socialist creation.

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– Maskurbator 1 point 213 days ago +1 / -0

I agree that some of their risk measures are redundant, like PMI in case you can't pay the mortgage, but they can also simply repo the house if you don't pay, what is the point of both?

That said, what is your alternative to them charging interest? What if someone wants to buy a home but doesn't have the funds to pay in full. What then?

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– Ahaus667 [S] 1 point 213 days ago +1 / -0

Why are the banks charging interest to cover risk that is paid for by the government? When’s the last time banks actually lost money from home loans? Again, we socialized losses for banks but for some reason privatized profit.

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– theaustrianpainter 2 points 213 days ago +2 / -0

Are we sure it is his hubris or just another ploy to enrich his banker friends in Black Rock and other banks? After all, his kids are all married into the circles.

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