Dresden was destroyed by A-bombs now? I missed that in my history books.
You also missed that in my comment. Nowhere did it say that.
It was an atrocity, a war crime
At least you admit that. By today's standards, yes.
The 100K dead number was indeed the early estimate of the losses for the first step of Downfall. Later it was revised to 250K based on gathered intelligence. It a post-war study they concluded it would be double that, Japan had far more men and resources than they'd imagined.
So you're telling me that after the war was over, and the deed was done, they created studies to justify what they had done? That is not exactly unsurprising. Also, 500K - even if accurate - is still a long way from 5 million.
Oh? You have access to the IDF's inside information?
Not just me. You do too. You just close your eyes and hold your ears and shout "LALALALALALALA, CAN'T HEAR YOU". 83%. The Bosnian War had a small proportions of civilian casualties. Great Russia has a smaller proportion of civilian casualties in its just reconquest of the borderlands, even though the deep state potentates keep bashing them.
In Rwanda there were military and para-military forces on both sides that specifically sought civilians for massacre. You are an idiot to claim the IDF is doing anything remotely like that.
You also failed to read this quote. English is your second language?
So some Israeli bureaucrat said something nasty,
Some bureaucrat? The entire country is steeped in genocidal rhetoric and calls to murder children. This wasn't just some guy. A Major General who commands the military intelligence service.
How about the Minister of Finance who says that they shouldn't be scared to foster epidemics of disease in Gaza?
Seldom has a genocide been so openly admitted to by so many.
Hamas has vowed to kill every Jew in Israel, then the rest of the planet.
Oh really? So they're honorary Ukrainians? I bet you can't cite that. Also, Hamas has killed orders of magnitude fewer than your beloved IDF war criminals.
That's the instruction of their holy texts, eh?
It isn't, but it is that of Israel - see how they call Palestinians Amalek.
But the IDF are the bad guys? Nonsense.
It's funny that you guys were the most fanatical concentration camp guards, but now that your former victims are committing a genocide, you cheer that. It seems that you're not for or against any given group, you're just pro-genocide.
So you're telling me that after the war was over, and the deed was done, they created studies to justify what they had done? That is not exactly unsurprising. Also, 500K - even if accurate - is still a long way from 5 million.
You accuse me of not reading things properly? That was losses of Allied troops, that's where the 100K you mentioned came from. You really think Japan could have been over-run with 100K civilians dead? The bombers alone killed far more than that.
They did studies after the war to check how accurate (or not!) their plans were. They had no need to "justify" anything, they'd won.
It wasn't until after the war they learned just how well prepared Japan was for exactly where the invasions would come from. It would have been a bloodbath. The estimates for Japan's military losses would have been at least 800K, nearly all their troops in the southern island. Civilian losses would have been at least 3 million, again just for that first phase of Downfall. A minimum of 4.3M just for Olympic.
The rest of your blathering is far too stupid to deserve a reply other than 🤣
You accuse me of not reading things properly? That was losses of Allied troops, that's where the 100K you mentioned came from.
That was what I mentioned because that is all they care about.
They had no need to "justify" anything, they'd won.
That's when you justify your actions... when the deed is done. Do you really think they'd admit afterwards that they used the most terrible weapons and it was completely unnecessary?
It's like your people being concentration camp guards for yet another genocide that was completely unnecessary, like the one in Gaza.
The rest of your blathering is far too stupid to deserve a reply other than 🤣
Not the first time you've lost a debate to me, and it won't be the last. Why would you even start sh*t with me, only to humiliate yourself like this? Calling a Major General 'some bureaucrat'? Endorsing calls to spread epidemics? Being unable to read two separate sections? No wonder you're getting your ass kicked HARD by Uncle Vova. Rightly so.
"Lost" 😜 You are delusional.
The only way you've "won" is by twisting facts until they mean the opposite of reality, then screaming the lies over and over like a 7 year-old having a tantrum. You just did it again in that comment!
When you get something correct I've acknowledged it, but that still makes you angry somehow. Oh well.
The fact that you are unable to cite any fact that I 'twisted' is proof positive that you, yes, got whipped.
When you get something correct I've acknowledged it,
No, you didn't even acknowledge you own inability to read your second language after Ukrainian, for example your false claim that I said Dresden was A-bombed.
You also missed that in my comment. Nowhere did it say that.
At least you admit that. By today's standards, yes.
So you're telling me that after the war was over, and the deed was done, they created studies to justify what they had done? That is not exactly unsurprising. Also, 500K - even if accurate - is still a long way from 5 million.
Not just me. You do too. You just close your eyes and hold your ears and shout "LALALALALALALA, CAN'T HEAR YOU". 83%. The Bosnian War had a small proportions of civilian casualties. Great Russia has a smaller proportion of civilian casualties in its just reconquest of the borderlands, even though the deep state potentates keep bashing them.
You also failed to read this quote. English is your second language?
Some bureaucrat? The entire country is steeped in genocidal rhetoric and calls to murder children. This wasn't just some guy. A Major General who commands the military intelligence service.
How about the Minister of Finance who says that they shouldn't be scared to foster epidemics of disease in Gaza?
Seldom has a genocide been so openly admitted to by so many.
Oh really? So they're honorary Ukrainians? I bet you can't cite that. Also, Hamas has killed orders of magnitude fewer than your beloved IDF war criminals.
It isn't, but it is that of Israel - see how they call Palestinians Amalek.
It's funny that you guys were the most fanatical concentration camp guards, but now that your former victims are committing a genocide, you cheer that. It seems that you're not for or against any given group, you're just pro-genocide.
You accuse me of not reading things properly? That was losses of Allied troops, that's where the 100K you mentioned came from. You really think Japan could have been over-run with 100K civilians dead? The bombers alone killed far more than that.
They did studies after the war to check how accurate (or not!) their plans were. They had no need to "justify" anything, they'd won.
It wasn't until after the war they learned just how well prepared Japan was for exactly where the invasions would come from. It would have been a bloodbath. The estimates for Japan's military losses would have been at least 800K, nearly all their troops in the southern island. Civilian losses would have been at least 3 million, again just for that first phase of Downfall. A minimum of 4.3M just for Olympic.
The rest of your blathering is far too stupid to deserve a reply other than 🤣
That was what I mentioned because that is all they care about.
That's when you justify your actions... when the deed is done. Do you really think they'd admit afterwards that they used the most terrible weapons and it was completely unnecessary?
It's like your people being concentration camp guards for yet another genocide that was completely unnecessary, like the one in Gaza.
Not the first time you've lost a debate to me, and it won't be the last. Why would you even start sh*t with me, only to humiliate yourself like this? Calling a Major General 'some bureaucrat'? Endorsing calls to spread epidemics? Being unable to read two separate sections? No wonder you're getting your ass kicked HARD by Uncle Vova. Rightly so.
"Lost" 😜 You are delusional.
The only way you've "won" is by twisting facts until they mean the opposite of reality, then screaming the lies over and over like a 7 year-old having a tantrum. You just did it again in that comment!
When you get something correct I've acknowledged it, but that still makes you angry somehow. Oh well.
You prefer 'got whipped'?
The fact that you are unable to cite any fact that I 'twisted' is proof positive that you, yes, got whipped.
No, you didn't even acknowledge you own inability to read your second language after Ukrainian, for example your false claim that I said Dresden was A-bombed.