Just because Israel is a subversive entity doesn't magically make Islam our friend. IF YOU READ ME CALLING ISRAEL SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEHOW CONCLUDED THAT I AM ZIONIST THEN YOU'RE 100 PERCENT A RETARD.
I'm also sick of fuckers claiming that muslims are only hostile because muh US bombed them. Muslims have been killing Christians since Mohammed was able to stop pretending to be peaceful.
The middle east invaded the west first and the US isn't even responsible for dragging the west into the Middle East in modern times. That would be Europeans and the Sykes-Picot agreement.
I'm sick and fucking tired of the poor misunderstood muslims bullshit from the alledged right.
I AM OBVIOUSLY NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS SITE BUT FREQUENT COMMEMTS AND POSTS ON BROADER SOCIAL MEDIA AMONG RIGHT WING ACCOUNTS.
I made it all caps for the low IQ that have snuck in
It should but the majority of anti-Jew people throughout the years have made it incredibly easy to dismiss them due to the very things I've been describing, either by being insane about it, attaching themselves to actual violent groups out in the wilderness, or just going too hard too fast.
Those that weren't, were simple to get lumped in with the aforementioned ones and just had an uphill fight to accomplish nothing. I know this particular struggle well because in my MRA days it was the exact reason we "lost" constantly. Imagine if everytime you try to make a point to someone whose on the fence, Imp shows up representing your "side" and explodes it. Nothing you did mattered anymore as long as he was around, and no amount of logical discussion could undo his existence.
And that's why I criticize the same problem happening in front of me so regularly when it comes to other groups. Its one thing to "let it out" here so to speak by just screaming how much you hate them (see how often I rant about niggers here), but its another to let that be your dominant form of communicating it. Which, based on the responses I usually get, seems to be the case with many.
You'd be surprised to here that this place is the source of 90% of my news, as I don't watch TV or have a twitter. And all my youtube subs are hobbies where I leave the moment they say anything political.
My only connection to the GOP is "this is what I have to work with right now" and I'd see them destroyed otherwise as traitors or sinners of the highest order. And I only defend them here so often because doomers are useless retards and will exaggerate everything to justify their gloom, and not offer any solutions or even ways to help other than vague useless "muh principles" platitudes. Like explaining how we should actually start to end the Two Party system in a way that doesn't just guarantee Dem wins forevermore.
To keep it on theme, there is useful, possible ways to go about your belief and then the extremity that is counterproductive and self destructive. Most here always default to the extreme, and then take "that's a little dramatic, the world isn't over" as full defense of it. And that anything outside the hivemind, echo must mean you are a subverter trying to trick them.
Most of us here agree on 90% of things, we should be able to discuss the minute details from there without needing a Purity Test first. But clearly that seems to be the case, as it keeps coming up that you need to Disavow Trump/GOP hard enough first to be listened to.
TheImp has no parallel really. Probably the closest things would be the conspiratards selling anti-Jewish hot takes like Ian Carroll and Candace Owens, but they don't match his anger level. If they were obsessively conspiratarding about the WEF, China, globalist, etc. They wouldn't be controversial among the right.
That's probably not a great idea if you are going to invest any time into politics. The .win network is full of bad actors (see link in my previous comment).
A few doomers are here, but it seems like people interpret criticism of Trump as dooming. I'm actually optimistic about all the anti-Jewish sentiment. I've said since before the election that the main thing I expected was him demistifying politics, and it's beginning to happen.
That's not going to happen. If you get enough people disgusted with Republicans to shift things that much, it will have a major effect on politics beyond just electing Dems. The Dem voter base is actually very demoralized right now anyway. Look how badly the Biden Presidency and Harris campaign went for them. They're not getting many young people out to protest, either. It's all olds.
I expect people to have some sort of criticisms of Trump given what's going on and his entanglements with Jews and even Muslims.
In the MRA sphere? He is a dime a dozen really. There were guys like him everywhere, with the only exception that they usually grew out of it. That's why I was soft on him for so long compared to a lot, because its a "phase" I saw many through. In the "anti-Jew" sphere it would be pol-tards really, or the guys who take Jewish conspiracies and go "also lizard people" (even if that was initially a psyop, quite a few fell into it).
When I say "here" I mean just KIA2, I don't go elsewhere because its either the blind sycophancy of T_D or Conpro level retardation with little in between. And I don't believe half of what gets posted anyway, but arguing with people about what is and isn't is a great way to sharpen your own mind even if you lose.
And many take any defense of him as full support of everything he does.
I know, we are generations away from even the possibility. But its a solid example of my point because it does exist. Meaning you are voting D or R, and anything outside those two just benefits whoever has the more overwhelming side (right now D, given their fraud capability). So you are forced to work within the system to get what you want, rather than simply refuse "out of principle" until you get what you truly want. I only support R because the chance of me getting anything I want goes from 0% to a small chance.
Personally, I don't feel the need to virtue signal that "I DONT LIKE THIS" whenever he does things that are obviously fucked. If I have something useful to add I will, but a lot of topics I simply say nothing because everyone else has it covered already. The votes can't be taken back, so whatever's on the table is going to play.
This is different than "he did something pro-Jew" because I feel the need to consistently remind people that he has been openly that way this entire time, and if you didn't know it until that moment that's really on you. And if that's your big "Crux issue" I get it, but the Dems are literally no different are the Congressional level and would have done the exact same things he does (probably more capitulating honestly) but in more secrecy.
To keep it on the theme I keep harping, criticizing him for it is reasonable and should be done. Freaking the fuck out and acting like you should have never voted for him (or go full Fuentes and say vote for Kamala) is autistically single minded because of aforementioned issue of them all being Jew lovers at the top level, making it a principle without difference in reality.
I've never seen anyone as bad as Imp. Maybe you underestimate how bad he is since you don't go to any other .wins. The bad actors absolutely find their way to KiA2, again see link from a couple of comments ago. It's astonishing really that they bother, but they do nonetheless.
I never do that. I'm still glad he won because I think he exposes the Jews more which is what I expected. I've known for years that he's not what he pretended to be in 2015-2016.
His current state is completely unhinged, likely because he never did grow out of this "phase" as it is for most people. I think the current version of him versus the pre-KIA2 bans is a good example of how living in such a mindset can deteriorate you into nonsense.
Oh I didn't question you on their existence, but I've been here a long time too. I know when someone is obviously trying to pull something, or rally some kind of narrative. Telia was a very clear one on the "anti-Jew" train, if we are being honest.
But that exists everywhere, and confronting or learning to see through it is still a skill we should work towards as a whole. And yeah, I don't know why anyone would care about this little backwoods squatting zone, but clearly they do as various ones keep coming.
You have not, and aren't someone I'd think of when leveraging these criticisms, but you have seen the type of behavior I am describing.