The Ethnic Cleansing Of Germans After WW2
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I'd have more sympathy for them if their plan at the time wasnt to genocide 90% of eastern europe.
its the deepest irony that the part of Germans that hasnt been stripped of its will to exist is the one that spent 50 years under the boot of the Slavs they wanted to genocide.
The German government never planned to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe. You can scream 'BUT GENERALPLAN OST!' all you want it doesn't make it anymore true.
At most they wanted to "cleanse" the Slavic lands in the most positive sense of the term - by marrying already Germanized Slavs to Germans.
As opposed to what Stalin did.
Did Hitler see the Germans as being above the Slavs? Yes, he did. For good reason. Eastern Europe was a shit hole for the most part. Did he want to cleanse Eastern Europe of the Bolsheviks and get it in the sphere of influence of Germany? Yes, of course. Did he want to exterminate the Slavs? Absolutely fucking not. He would've already struggled to repopulate the formerly occupied German territories. Settling the vastness of Eastern Europe with Germans? That would've been impossible.
That story is on the same level as the masturbation machines. Completely removed from reality.
I'd have to find the source again but I'm pretty sure he was onboard with "bleaching" the Eastern Bloc as it were (especially considering historic German populations in the area i.e. aforementioned Volga Germans and Siebenburg Saxons of Romania)
Just saying they didnt doesnt make it true either.
Unless you can back this up.
If you accuse someone of something you have the burden of proof. So unless you can provide hard proof that Generalplan Ost was anything more than just some fantasy cooked up by a single guy who wasn't taken seriously then the concept of innocent until proven guilty applies.
I'm stating a commonly accepted fact that is in every high school history manual. I'm open to the idea of it being ideologically tainted bullshit(wouldn't be the first time), but no the burden of proof isnt on me.
and i've yet to see any proof beyond "he didnt really mean it, trust me bro"
Tell us about the Germans in Eastern Europe and Russia being genocided/purged/exiled to Siberia by the Soviets and other Slav military Juntas then get back to us.
Sure, whatever. And despite all that, the only part of Germany that doesnt want to go silently into the night right know is the eastern one. Just look at any election map.
I already know the election map and why it’s conservative in the East. My main concern is how most people don’t have much historical perspective. The Western half of Germany is the one with all of the American military bases and McDonalds.
That was never the plan. This isn't even any "yay, Hitler good" thing either. It's just clearly not what the plan was. Hitler, at least in his claims, wanted to save Europe. Ironically, he wanted stability. And he was willing to work with Russia, and others. Things got very messy, entangling alliances dictated all kinds of weird stuff, politics and power jockeying went on, and so much more, but they certainly didn't want to kill Europe, Eastern or otherwise.
Everyone was a monster in WW2. Everyone did fucked up things, everyone did war crimes. The war should have never happened. But, no, I don't think Hitler and the Germans wanted to kill 90% of Eastern Europeans. And we largely only hear one version and side of the story, that tries to paint the losers as the absolute worst people ever. And some of them even were, to be clear. Some of the Nazis were not just as bad, but actually worse than what we're told. Absolute demons. But, as a group, the stories about the losers of WW2 are often greatly exaggerated.