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Should AI companies be liable for LLM output? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 238 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 238 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +46 / -0
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– ernsithe 14 points 238 days ago +14 / -0

Devil's advocate: using your brain and cross-checking is based on a ton of knowledge you absorbed before the information landscape turned to dogshit. When they "use their brains" They're not cross-checking AI against a reputable textbook they read authored by people who dedicated their careers to factual accuracy. They're cross-checking AI against a 24-hour news cycle, TikTok influencers, and activism masquerading as science.

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– Kaarous 13 points 238 days ago +13 / -0

At what point does functional illiteracy become their own fault?

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– ernsithe 9 points 238 days ago +9 / -0

Honestly, that's a tough one. We had it relatively easy. There was the usual mainstream media propaganda, but the Internet of the time offered a place for honest conversation. That's scarce now and under constant threat. I don't see anything on the horizon replacing it unless the Euro censorship pushes drive everyone to the darkweb, which would probably be the best outcome. Not to go full black-pill, but think about it:

  • Any expert that disagrees is stripped of title and exiled from their field, so all the "experts" agree.
  • If a book disagrees, it's removed from sale.
  • If someone disagrees on any remotely mainstream platform, they're banned.
  • Teachers are removed from teaching if they don't toe the line.
  • Even churches parrot the new dogma.
  • IRL socializing is less common than it was so even personal experience is more rare.

What are the odds that someone on the younger side is functionally literate even if they make an above-average effort to be informed? And it's by design, outside of their control. What sane control information do they have to cross-check things against? It's bleak. Unless you have a root of trust, you're going to be cross-checking garbage against garbage. If you get lucky enough, maybe you accidentally come across enough truth that one day it clicks and upends everything you know, but I don't think that's especially common.

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– Kaarous 13 points 238 days ago +13 / -0

Even in the Soviet Union people could still properly read, and that was a place where you couldn't tell jokes without going to jail. I don't think the environment of the times is much excuse.

This isn't something that has to be handed to you. It's a matter of effort. The true problem we have is laziness and complacency

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– ernsithe 5 points 238 days ago +5 / -0

I think we're arguing past one another. I'm not arguing that we don't have a laziness and complacency issue. I'm saying that it's become more difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. Per effort, the achieved literacy is less. The laziness and complacency compounds with it.

Even in the Soviet Union people could still properly read

Sure. Now increase the number of books they had access to by a factor of 10,000 but make all the new ones a mix of propaganda, AI-generated nonsense, and bad fanfic.

I'm not trying to absolve them of their lack of effort. I'm just saying they're in a markedly different situation than people born 20+ years prior.

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– TallestSkil 4 points 238 days ago +4 / -0

If–from birth–you’re never trained to read, how can it be your fault?

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– Kaarous 10 points 238 days ago +10 / -0

Adults can't learn? Teenagers can't learn?

Nobody can achieve anything of their own accord, it has to be handed to you?

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– TallestSkil 8 points 238 days ago +8 / -0

Apparently they can’t even conceive of the idea. That’s what happens when you lower your societal standards to the level of a species that never invented the written word.

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– RaisingPhoenix 1 point 238 days ago +1 / -0

Its not that they can't learn, its that they literally need to unlearn the incorrect methods they were taught. Which is substantially harder to do then simply learning a new skill.

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