Vatican 2 is fake and gay!
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There are zero commandments in Judaeo-Christianity condoning torture.
Nevertheless, you bring up a very valid point that highlights the antithetical nature of your original point: all of the barbaric tortures committed in the name of religion fall outside of the moral arbitration dictated by said religions; ergo, the moral relativism you pined for consists of the secular barbarism you both support (in pagan societies) yet condemn (when committed under religious pretexts you despise).
It highlights the maxim that the Left's only standards are double standards.
Ironic.
I support secular barbarism? How did you come to that conclusion? Because I said there were periods in time that were less fucked than today and used antiquity as an example?
1933-1939 Germany was also significantly less fucked than today and it was governed by a political ideology that saw Christianity as subversive religion. I suspect you're probably gonna retort with 'But Germany was governed by Christian morality!' and I'll respond with European morality isn't a Christian invention and point at South America and the Christian parts of Africa as proof of that.
Which brings us back to my actual original point of blood is more important than religion.
Also you were the one who brought up torture. At no point did I condone torture by anyone.
How is the barbarism of old more acceptable than the (unearned) privilege of modern comforts you've been afforded to indulge?
And how you do you reconcile the comforts you currently exploit that were only made available thanks to rapid civilisational development following the enlightenment that came from the social securities paved by Judaeo-Chrtistian/Protestant values that are the foundation upon which modern society was developed?
You aren't typing from a computer built in a nation formed from secular moral relativism. So I'm guessing you're going to toss all your goods, hook up with your anti-theist reddit buddies, and make CHAZ/CHOP zones 2.0 and show all the nations formed from Christian values how secular relativists can build and maintain a first-world nation, yes?
Ever heard of the mouse utopia experiment? European culture has been committing a slow suicide for the last century. We're headed for ethnic and cultural annihilation.
Do I really have to explain why that is a bad thing?
The foundation is European culture not Christianity. The achievements of the classical world that made all of this possible were not achieved by the Christian crusade against anything non-Christian.
These are European achievements. Achievements of the European blood. Not of a imported foreign religion. That's why the rapid development only started after the dominance of the Church was broken.
Reddit atheists aren't anti-theist. They are deeply religious. Their God is called 'trust the science'. But alright you're not interested in an honest discussion so we might as well call it quits here.
The computer wasn't built by people following religious dogmas either by the way.
That's because of atheistic secularism. The complete opposite of the thing you're arguing against.
Feminism, hedonism, the sexual revolution, and civil rights all brought about the cultural annihilation that was BUILT by Judaeo-Christian values.
Again, the irony of your argument is thick enough to slice with a steak knife.
Modern European culture is literally BUILT on Judaeo-Christianity:
It's bizarre someone can argue so vehemently on behalf of a history they know so little about.
It literally was....
https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-charles-babbage-victorian-computer-pioneer/
In fact, we wouldn't have computers as we know them today if it weren't for people like Charles Simeon helping support men like Babbage to open up that field of science (once again, the foundations of Judaeo-Christianity showing that it helped open the conduit for people with unearned privileges to use systems they take for granted -- even while those same ungrateful people badmouth the religions that allowed those systems to exist).
As I said, if emotionally charged 20-something anti-theists spent more time studying quantum physics, anthropology, and history... they probably wouldn't be anti-theists.