Vatican 2 is fake and gay!
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You're right... which is why things like crucifixions, poena cullei, bestial executions and the boiling brazen bull were common forms of punishment in those societies:
Hilariously enough, you seem to think that level of barbarism is far more acceptable than what we have today, which either means you are a sociopathic sadist or not very well versed in history.
Should I retort with all the creative ways Christian societies and especially the Church itself liked to execute and torture people? Torture is still quite popular today. Although it's being done mostly out of view.
There are zero commandments in Judaeo-Christianity condoning torture.
Nevertheless, you bring up a very valid point that highlights the antithetical nature of your original point: all of the barbaric tortures committed in the name of religion fall outside of the moral arbitration dictated by said religions; ergo, the moral relativism you pined for consists of the secular barbarism you both support (in pagan societies) yet condemn (when committed under religious pretexts you despise).
It highlights the maxim that the Left's only standards are double standards.
Ironic.
I support secular barbarism? How did you come to that conclusion? Because I said there were periods in time that were less fucked than today and used antiquity as an example?
1933-1939 Germany was also significantly less fucked than today and it was governed by a political ideology that saw Christianity as subversive religion. I suspect you're probably gonna retort with 'But Germany was governed by Christian morality!' and I'll respond with European morality isn't a Christian invention and point at South America and the Christian parts of Africa as proof of that.
Which brings us back to my actual original point of blood is more important than religion.
Also you were the one who brought up torture. At no point did I condone torture by anyone.
How is the barbarism of old more acceptable than the (unearned) privilege of modern comforts you've been afforded to indulge?
And how you do you reconcile the comforts you currently exploit that were only made available thanks to rapid civilisational development following the enlightenment that came from the social securities paved by Judaeo-Chrtistian/Protestant values that are the foundation upon which modern society was developed?
You aren't typing from a computer built in a nation formed from secular moral relativism. So I'm guessing you're going to toss all your goods, hook up with your anti-theist reddit buddies, and make CHAZ/CHOP zones 2.0 and show all the nations formed from Christian values how secular relativists can build and maintain a first-world nation, yes?