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posted 268 days ago by Ahaus667 268 days ago by Ahaus667 +89 / -0
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– current_horror 30 points 268 days ago +30 / -0

Money is inevitable.

Letting bankers and governments conjure it out of thin air is the problem.

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– BandageBandolier 6 points 268 days ago +6 / -0

I think sci-fi has the right of it, the next form of currency in the near future might be some form of energy credit system.

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– userman631 10 points 268 days ago +10 / -0

What, like some form of fuel currency? A Petrodollar if you will?

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 264 days ago +1 / -0

Yes, except modernized for the fuel that is more universally relevent in a world with gigawatt server farms and most electricity isn't generated by petrol generators.

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– userman631 1 point 264 days ago +1 / -0

There isn't a fuel that's much more relevant than oil. It's basically the lifeblood of logistics. You don't need massive server farms to have a reasonably modern nation, you do need motorized transport though and oil is the best fuel for small motor vehicles as well as what almost all of them have been built for in in the last century.

Short of an entire global restructuring of logistical networks or massive advancements in alternative fuels oil just can't be beat in terms of importance due to it's versatility and utility for last leg shipping.

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– lapalapa 2 points 267 days ago +2 / -0

That's not right, because it implies energy is ultimately the only thing that has value, but there's also land, craftmanship and others. Making money solely about energy is like making money about gold: it's a step back in the abstraction of value that money is.

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 264 days ago +1 / -0

Money's not supposed to represent everything of value, it's an just abstract representation of value.

It's just much more stable if it's tied to something that has almost universal nominal value to most people. Like you have 10 cows and need a car, but the car salesman is vegetarian. Rather than barter in circles every time we need something we can instead habitually trade our specialty goods for a certain value of a good with near universal demand, which energy fits pretty well because we all like to have lights on in our homes (Amish not withstanding) and electricity is a near universal cost of modern manufacturing. Money is just an extra step of abstraction from that, where instead of having to physically have the goods in question, you can just have a reasonably secure promise that the money can be always traded for said goods.

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– lapalapa 1 point 264 days ago +1 / -0

I understand the definition of money. The problem is tying it up to anything as specific as energy. It's not encompassing enough.

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