I have no confidence that Israel assassinated him, but what the original poster said is true: Israel has completely shit the bed on public relations.
BTW, Netanyahu didn't blow up the USS liberty. It was attacked by the Israeli Navy & Air Force due to reckless incompetence of the Navy, and total thoughtlessness of the Air Force.
Dude they were firing on a ship that was clearly marked as an American vessel, in an attempt to blame it on Egypt to drag us into a war on their behalf.
Their strategies have not developed since then as we continually and repeatedly let the tail wag the dog with regards to Israeli foreign policy. This is owing, no doubt, to a deeply entrenched jewish blackmail ring targeted at elites.
They did not attempt to blame Egypt. In fact, the Navy misidentified the ship as Egyptian. The transcripts of the pilots repeatedly showed them misidentifying the ship until one of the pilots basically called out that an Egyptian ship would never have Latin numerals on it, and couldn't have been Arab. You should read the pilot's transcripts. They immediately tried to apologize and offer assistance to the Liberty. Assistance which the Liberty, correctly, declined.
The Liberty was an intelligence ship that was spying on Israeli troop movements because the Israelis had hidden the war preparation from the Americans. The Navy lied to Israel about the position of the ship, and the Israeli Navy claimed that they had been shelled by an Egyptian cruiser in the vicinity of where the Liberty ended up being.
So, yes, it was reckless incompetence where the pilots even asked "Is it American" because they knew that the American navy was in the region and they didn't want to hit it, but the Navy had misidentified it and was rushing to sink it.
Still can't take away anything from the unquestionably heroic efforts for the crew to keep the ship afloat. Really impossible shit.
Just because they didn't end up blaming it on Egypt doesn't mean that wasn't the original plan. People have a tendency to assume that because something didn't happen that it wasn't intended to happen, or because something would require it to be a bad plan or poorly executed that it would have never been the plan at all. No, sometimes mistakes are made. It happens. Just because some otherwise capable entity botches something doesn't mean they didn't do it.
Proud US Navy tradition is their fire control, but reading the accounts of the crew is fucking harrowing. The ship had no armor, was dodging torpedoes, and was being ripped to shreds by 30 mmm cannon fire. They weren't returning fire, but it wouldn't have helped if they did. Fire control guys getting dismembered by those canon rounds while trying to put-out fires. The captain was severely wounded and the bridge nearly destroyed from one one the strafes. The ship was absolutely ravaged, and yet it still managed to avoid and out maneuver many of the torpedoes, even while crew were being machine gunned from the Israeli Navy boats.
There can be no doubt that the ship and crew of the USS Liberty acted in accordance with the highest traditions of the United States Navy, and was one of the finest, toughest, gutsiest defensive actions since the USS Laffey.
They were also told repeatedly over radio that they were bombing an ally, and laughed in return.
I have no idea where you're getting this from. The Israelis received no transmissions, the Israelis didn't apparently contact the US Navy, and the Liberty couldn't even call a distress signal because her radio was damaged. If she had, the crew wouldn't have had to keep her afloat for 17 hours until rescue.
Israel didn't claim the Liberty was shelling nearby settlements, they claimed the Egyptians were, and claimed that the Liberty was Egyptian.
I have no confidence that Israel assassinated him, but what the original poster said is true: Israel has completely shit the bed on public relations.
BTW, Netanyahu didn't blow up the USS liberty. It was attacked by the Israeli Navy & Air Force due to reckless incompetence of the Navy, and total thoughtlessness of the Air Force.
Dude they were firing on a ship that was clearly marked as an American vessel, in an attempt to blame it on Egypt to drag us into a war on their behalf.
Their strategies have not developed since then as we continually and repeatedly let the tail wag the dog with regards to Israeli foreign policy. This is owing, no doubt, to a deeply entrenched jewish blackmail ring targeted at elites.
They did not attempt to blame Egypt. In fact, the Navy misidentified the ship as Egyptian. The transcripts of the pilots repeatedly showed them misidentifying the ship until one of the pilots basically called out that an Egyptian ship would never have Latin numerals on it, and couldn't have been Arab. You should read the pilot's transcripts. They immediately tried to apologize and offer assistance to the Liberty. Assistance which the Liberty, correctly, declined.
The Liberty was an intelligence ship that was spying on Israeli troop movements because the Israelis had hidden the war preparation from the Americans. The Navy lied to Israel about the position of the ship, and the Israeli Navy claimed that they had been shelled by an Egyptian cruiser in the vicinity of where the Liberty ended up being.
So, yes, it was reckless incompetence where the pilots even asked "Is it American" because they knew that the American navy was in the region and they didn't want to hit it, but the Navy had misidentified it and was rushing to sink it.
Still can't take away anything from the unquestionably heroic efforts for the crew to keep the ship afloat. Really impossible shit.
Just because they didn't end up blaming it on Egypt doesn't mean that wasn't the original plan. People have a tendency to assume that because something didn't happen that it wasn't intended to happen, or because something would require it to be a bad plan or poorly executed that it would have never been the plan at all. No, sometimes mistakes are made. It happens. Just because some otherwise capable entity botches something doesn't mean they didn't do it.
There doesn't seem to have been an original plan, that's what I'm trying to tell you. The Air Force transcripts show stupidity.
"We refuse to let the ship die, and will bitchslap Poseidon if we have to in order to keep her afloat."
As is US Naval tradition. To the point that losing the keel of the ship can be just a minor inconvenience.
Proud US Navy tradition is their fire control, but reading the accounts of the crew is fucking harrowing. The ship had no armor, was dodging torpedoes, and was being ripped to shreds by 30 mmm cannon fire. They weren't returning fire, but it wouldn't have helped if they did. Fire control guys getting dismembered by those canon rounds while trying to put-out fires. The captain was severely wounded and the bridge nearly destroyed from one one the strafes. The ship was absolutely ravaged, and yet it still managed to avoid and out maneuver many of the torpedoes, even while crew were being machine gunned from the Israeli Navy boats.
There can be no doubt that the ship and crew of the USS Liberty acted in accordance with the highest traditions of the United States Navy, and was one of the finest, toughest, gutsiest defensive actions since the USS Laffey.
''Of course we bombed that American ship, look at the American flag she was flying. She was ASKING FOR IT!''
Nobody even noticed the flag. Why would they at 600 mph.
Again, this is why the letters and the color of the ship were more important. Which, they explicitly misidentified. Several times.
They lied about numerous aspects of the attack zero reason to believe them on this.
They were also told repeatedly over radio that they were bombing an ally, and laughed in return.
Israel also claimed the Liberty was shelling nearby settlements. The Liberty had some machine guns and no ordnace capable of striking land.
I have no idea where you're getting this from. The Israelis received no transmissions, the Israelis didn't apparently contact the US Navy, and the Liberty couldn't even call a distress signal because her radio was damaged. If she had, the crew wouldn't have had to keep her afloat for 17 hours until rescue.
Israel didn't claim the Liberty was shelling nearby settlements, they claimed the Egyptians were, and claimed that the Liberty was Egyptian.