Israel hasn't existed there for 3000 years, so that doesn't really matter.
I don't really care who 'owns' the trees, it's a war and shit's being taken and destroyed, it's how these things work. Property rights won't be respected by either side.
However, the claim that the productivity of Fig Tree Orchards seem to take 70 years to optimize, which sucks, but such is war.
Jews have lived continuously in that region for 3000+ years. Various military occupations, kingdoms & so forth have ruled them, but they remain. The regional name gets changed now and then, but that's just words on paper.
Yes, war is hell. The more hell it is? The faster it gets ended.
Figs take 4-5 years to start producing, I thought it was 10 but whatever. They produce until 30-50 years old, typically, but can live until 200+
There's an old Arab story about it, actually that story is common across the region, so there's a Jewish version too :> 'The Old Man And The Fig Tree'.
I don't care how long someone lived in a place, if you can't keep it, you lose it. I'm not saying it's fair, but it simply is. "historical claims" may be an animus for action or a causus belli for conflict, but it has no legitimate weight.
The more hell it is? The faster it gets ended.
This is why ceasefires are bad ideas.
Also, no one's pointed this out, but figs are delicious.
Correct. Her OVER emphasis on "generations" is pure hysteria. She cannot even get a simple fact straight! A generation is typically 20-25 years, right? Millennia are much longer! (technically a millennia could be measured in "generations" (40) but you know? That's just silly)
Figs are yummy, so are olives. I recently discovered "cracked olives" 😺 which... take a little to get used to (lemon and hot peppers?) but are in fact delicious. I think mine came from Jordan? Lebanon? They might even be from the West Bank! It isn't clearly labeled. They're made all around the Mediterranean.
Ceasefires are OK as long as combat doesn't re-start. Otherwise I agree: it just lets both sides "arm up" and the ensuing bloodshed is even worse.
Israel hasn't existed there for 3000 years, so that doesn't really matter.
I don't really care who 'owns' the trees, it's a war and shit's being taken and destroyed, it's how these things work. Property rights won't be respected by either side.
However, the claim that the productivity of Fig Tree Orchards seem to take 70 years to optimize, which sucks, but such is war.
Jews have lived continuously in that region for 3000+ years. Various military occupations, kingdoms & so forth have ruled them, but they remain. The regional name gets changed now and then, but that's just words on paper.
Yes, war is hell. The more hell it is? The faster it gets ended.
Figs take 4-5 years to start producing, I thought it was 10 but whatever. They produce until 30-50 years old, typically, but can live until 200+
There's an old Arab story about it, actually that story is common across the region, so there's a Jewish version too :> 'The Old Man And The Fig Tree'.
I don't care how long someone lived in a place, if you can't keep it, you lose it. I'm not saying it's fair, but it simply is. "historical claims" may be an animus for action or a causus belli for conflict, but it has no legitimate weight.
This is why ceasefires are bad ideas.
Also, no one's pointed this out, but figs are delicious.
Correct. Her OVER emphasis on "generations" is pure hysteria. She cannot even get a simple fact straight! A generation is typically 20-25 years, right? Millennia are much longer! (technically a millennia could be measured in "generations" (40) but you know? That's just silly)
Figs are yummy, so are olives. I recently discovered "cracked olives" 😺 which... take a little to get used to (lemon and hot peppers?) but are in fact delicious. I think mine came from Jordan? Lebanon? They might even be from the West Bank! It isn't clearly labeled. They're made all around the Mediterranean.
Ceasefires are OK as long as combat doesn't re-start. Otherwise I agree: it just lets both sides "arm up" and the ensuing bloodshed is even worse.