Suddenly Zelensky needs to follow the constitution?
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>CIA niggers, coup, 'unapproved' people
I want you to explain what you think the plan was and what events have gone according to plan and which haven't. Without making weird allusions, just state things plainly.
>Too bad that's reddit cope.
Ah yes, but Kiev was a feint, the war will be over in two weeks. Right? Get over this tribal shit. People are dying on both sides in huge numbers. If they weren't, one side would have won by now.
>blood ties
??? This is literally a brother war. It is the end of both countries. The only blood left is going to be on the ground.
Aw, did I hurt your feelings, Langley boy?
Simple - the kiev regime is a money laundering scheme. If you don't know this, I have no idea just how ignorant you are. This is not a 'weird allusion', this is reality. The whole point of provoking the Russians into action is sales for the military industrial complex.
And why do you think either side hasn't "won"? Because American taxpayer dollars are being dumped in the billions into Ukraine to prop up a pointless war. The reason why Russia isn't "conquering" anything is because it was a defensive war, to help protect what you callously called a "fledgling micro nation".
What ukraine's illegitimate government is fighting now is the breakaway nation which is now backed by a friendly neighbor, wasting ukrainian lives while lining their pockets with dirty money.
The CIA-run regime in kiev didn't see it that way when they started committing atrocities against the people in the eastern provinces. Nice bait, though.
>provoking the Russians into action
So the CIA knew they could force Russia to back paramilitaries in Donbas, and annex Crimea. And they knew Russia would invade and also knew that a slow trickle of weapons would be enough to repel them and extend the war indefinitely. Did Russia not know any of this or are they playing along?
> either side hasn't "won"? Because American taxpayer dollars
Ok. Does this revelation bring all the Russian soldiers back to life? Do those American munitions hit only empty soil? Millions of Russian soldiers are queuing up in eastern Ukraine, just hanging out enjoying life?
>Russia isn't "conquering" anything is because it was a defensive war
Ah so they never intended to roll tanks into Kiev, it was all a feint.
>illegitimate government is fighting now is the breakaway nation which is now backed by a friendly neighbor
Ok so it's a new nation. It's broken away. It's left the nest. But it's pretty small. Hmm, how can I state this without being "callous"?
What you call "Paramilitaries" are actually citizens driven to fight back against indiscriminate terror attacks by the kiev regime. When they asked for help, it was only natural that Russia would back them.
Slow trickle? I guess you weren't there when the banking system leveraged every charity to run 'help ukraine defend itself' scams.
This is why I said check the battlefield view.
I'm sure kiev's regime never intended to hit Moscow's civilian areas with suicide drones either. /s
They started the war, now they're dealing with the consequences.
You could start by respecting the rights of those people who chose to break away to determine their own fate rather than repeating redditor talking points.
>"Paramilitaries" are actually citizens driven to fight
Yep that's the definition of that word. Like how "fledgling" means new and "micro" means small and "nation" means nation. If you give some civilian militias weapons, you're backing a paramilitary. Provide a command structure and now you've got a proxy force.
So they were shelling random people for no reason? You keep disagreeing but then restating my proposed premise. Probably because when I state it, plainly, without the rhetorical back flips, it sounds absurd.
>Slow trickle?
Yes. First it was just ATGMs because that's what you can put on a plane on short notice. They didn't get HIMARS until 6 months later and then it was only 4 vehicles with only short range rockets, no atacms. Then the debate over artillery and cluster munitions. Then the debate over patriots. Then the debate over bradleys and tanks. Then F16s. It's been an extremely slow and protracted escalation, I'm not sure how you can deny this.
> the banking system leveraged every charity to run 'help ukraine defend itself' scams.
Is it a scam or did they buy the weapons? These are mutually exclusive. Also every charity in the world combined wouldn't fill up one cargo plane with javelins.
>This is why I said check the battlefield view.
I don't understand how this will answer the question. This is what I mean by you alluding to stuff. You need to state what you think because believe it or not, it is not obvious. Did Russia know that Ukraine was provoking them intentionally or not? Are they playing along or are they so weak that a couple glowies can dial the entire russian army forward and back from the other side of the planet?