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posted 333 days ago by canada_is_communist 333 days ago by canada_is_communist +111 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 24 points 333 days ago +24 / -0

The problem is tipping is a high trust manoeuvre and not punishing bad behavior from shitty third worlders or defective adult children have made it a low trust society. It's crazy that you think he's being subsidized by others at a 10-15% tip when half the country barely have the decency to flush a public toilet anymore. 10-15% is still probably way above average. Especially if you count dine and dashes as negative tips, since we're using them to balance the cost of services.

If it's baked into the costing then put it in the actual contract (aka the sticker price), don't just leave it to the more generous of society to pick up the slack of the ballooning feral population all by themselves.

Altruism only survives if it preferences itself first, but being firm handed is hard and feminized schooling made people weak. Either people with good moral intentions re-learn that fact, or they end up abused and extinct. Now is not the time to give more funds to people who most likely would not repay your good intentions. Do you really think most (young, female skewed) wait staff would rather donate to a trucker to pay legal costs to the government tyranny he was subject to, or some sob story of some random African with a sob story about moving to Canada with his 8 kids and their probably made up leukemia? Give those resources only to people you know deserve it and keep doing exclusively that forevermore. Blind charity in a world full of rats and rubes is just naive and dangerous.

The problem isn’t tipping culture. The problem is inflation. The problem is fiat currency. The problem is stagnating wages. Having a portion of the economy reliably exist under the table, away from government bullshit, is actually a good thing

Auto added, digitally paid tips at a chain restaurant do not even come close to existing under the table. That's the vast majority of tips these days, it's time to adapt to the current situation, not one from 30 years ago. The real problem here is the same one that caused stagnating wages in the first place: People not having the backbone to go against a system that exploits them and just making cope justifications for doing what they're told. There's no way all the tips you've paid in your life wouldn't have been better spent directly on causes and people who matter to you, tipping is just easier and less embarrassing.

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– current_horror 1 point 332 days ago +1 / -0

It's crazy that you think he's being subsidized by others at a 10-15% tip when half the country barely have the decency to flush a public toilet anymore.

It is painfully obvious that none of you have worked in food service before.

Servers have a very well defined average tip per table/ticket. That average functions as both an expected wage for the server and an expected cost for the customer. If that average falls too low, then no one wants the job.

Anyone who tips below the average is having their service subsidized by other customers. This is simple logic. It does not require a conscious decision, on the part of the above average tipper, to subsidize the non-tippers. You’re projecting a motivation onto a dynamic that requires none.

10-15% is still probably way above average. Especially if you count dine and dashes as negative tips, since we're using them to balance the cost of services.

Outside of the very worst blue cities with overwhelmingly black customer bases, dine and dashes are exceedingly rare. So much so that they still go viral on social media. They are not a major factor in this calculus unless they are, at which point the restaurant will quickly become insolvent.

If it's baked into the costing then put it in the actual contract (aka the sticker price), don't just leave it to the more generous of society to pick up the slack of the ballooning feral population all by themselves.

If your argument is that blacks ruin stuff, then “food service economies” is way down that list. Tipping culture works fine for most of the population in most areas. In places where blacks proliferate, you see automatic gratuities, and that’s literally the contact you’re asking for.

Auto added, digitally paid tips at a chain restaurant do not even come close to existing under the table. That's the vast majority of tips these days, it's time to adapt to the current situation, not one from 30 years ago.

I live in a major American city. Top 20 market. The vast majority of restaurants here do not require automatic gratuities. That shit is mostly restricted to very high end dining, which is maybe 5% of all transactions? It is becoming more common in the biggest cities in America, precisely because of the increasing “feral population”, but again… automatic gratuity is functionally identical to a higher wage + higher cost. So where’s the issue here? You object to tipping in places where it doesn’t cause problems and you object to “fake tipping” everywhere else? Are you sure you aren’t just a eurofag stuck on outdated programming?

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