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Never said whether it was a good idea or not. Just pointed out that the borders are anything but undefined. You might say that Israel should give up the land that it conquered in 1948 as well, but no one is demanding it because it's so completely unrealistic.
Hamas is not PLO.
Hamas was? Nonsense, of course. And the rest of it is, of course, Israeli propaganda. Only in your Ukrainian fantasy land is one side solely to blame for all the problems there.
Except no one is quoting 242, or even mentioning it.
Hamas was part of the PLO, along with a dozen or more other groups. When Arafat finally died, the power structure was re-arranged & Hamas and others reclaimed their own names but still maintained the "PLO format". Hamas is not one group, it is a large group with several smaller "umbrella organizations" that more-or-less do their bidding.
The PLO technically still exists? But has few members and no power.
Actually? "1948 borders" was a leftist chant until 10/7. Yes it is utterly impossible today.
Hamas was GIVEN a state. They refused to accept the existence of Israel and continued their efforts to create "Palestine". What do you think "from the river to the sea" means?
Says the one who thinks Hamas is a legitimate government & Palestine is just Gaza and West Bank 😂 Seriously! You shouldn't project so much.
When have I once said "Only ONE side is to blame for ALL the problems." For 90% of them? Maybe, but Israel isn't "blameless" and making idiotic accusations doesn't make you look smarter, eh? Quite the opposite.
Meanwhile you give Hamas every benefit and believe everything they say. How is that not a fantasy too? Mr.Projection.
It goes without saying. The demand is that Israel leave the occupied territories.
You're a nutjob. Hamas wasn't even founded two decades after the PLO, and you have no receipt at all for Hamas being a member.
Receipts please.
They weren't. Israel withdrew from Gaza. Gaza was not a state, as it wasn't sovereign. Also, Hamas wasn't in power at the time.
It means, for most, one secular, (puke) democratic state for both Jews and the indigenous population.
I challenge you to show me where I said that "Hamas is a legitimate government", whatever that's supposed to mean.
Obviously not. They're compromising by giving up 80% of their historic homeland. Gaza and the West Bank make up 22%, but Israel will annex parts of the West Bank, so they're left with about 20%.
I guess you deserve compliments for admitting the obvious, that Israel is not blameless. But there were no idiotic accusations on my part. You just don't know your history, or any history for that matter. Rather typical of your supposed people. The only organization in which you functioned well was the Waffen SS!
I don't. People who abduct babies and Holocaust survivors deserve extermination. Simultaneously, the truth is bad enough, you don't need to lie.
That's bullshit. That's not how international diplomacy works. One doesn't "assume" anything, it is spelled out or it doesn't count. It would only take a sentence, yet 26 pages & not once is it presented.
For Hamas that's the pre-WW2 borders of "Palestine". Gaza was not occupied, it was 100% ruled by Hamas. Israel had nothing to do with it except that Gaza was launching terror attacks non-stop. So, a lie.
That's because there hadn't been an election at the time it was handed over. DUH! The election came AFTER that. And Hamas won, Fatah fled to the West Bank and declared themselves the election winner & took power there. DUH!
Seriously? Hamas does that, you admit it, and "deserves extermination" yet you fight to defend them at every turn? Fuck off already, all you have is "your a Nazi"? Really? I'm a Nazi who supports Israel? Are you stoned out of your tree?
I know you imagine this is a great point and all, but it's not. Aside from the international law that was quoted, there is general agreement about what a Palestinian state would look like.
No, it's not. A sovereign state has control of its borders. Gaza did not. It did not have control of its airspace. It does not control its waters. Its population had to be registered in Israel.
More like, constantly bombing Gaza, which did actual damage as opposed to the pinpricks that Hamas launched in retaliation.
You said Israel gave "Hamas" a state. DUH! Now you realize how stupid you were, and you're trying to save face by admitting what I told you when you didn't realize it.
Yeah, thank you for your Wikipedia-tier knowledge.
Now, in Great Russia they use the proverb "honest as a German". Do they say "dishonest as a kholkhol" as well? Why did you leave out the first part?
"People who abduct babies and Holocaust survivors deserve extermination." vs. "Holocaust survivors deserve extermination."
Who are you trying to fool? Either you're too stupid to realize that this is talking about Hamas, or you're the single most dishonest person I've ever encountered. Which is worse, I leave it up to you.