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The new Fantastic Four movie (that is actually in line with the MCU) dropped 80% from opening weekend to the second weekend. Don't think it's the end of the MCU, but the drop is interesting to me (archive.is)
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points 301 days ago +3 / -0

Without having read any of current the Marvel comics, I’m going to guess it failed to take out the newest biggest baddest reality-warping cosmic being superthreat? If I were to issue one complaint that wasn’t about the DEI aspects of Marvel, it would definitely be that they’re absolutely lousy with a whole host of omega-level mutants and cosmic forces that have some endless DBZ-style tier list of “even stronger than the last guy to punk Galactus and/or The Living Tribunal.”

DC used to be better about that kind of stuff, but they’ve been increasingly guilty of it too, lately.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 5 points 301 days ago +5 / -0

So it was some existential threat as usual which involved a race the Watchers had previously uplifted. This went horribly wrong and the Watchers changed to the non-interference stance they are known for.

For reasons this uplifted race came back and were armed with Watcher tier tech, meaning everyone was basically fucked because the Watchers were pretty much THE first space faring race in the current universe so they are that advanced vs everyone else.

Imagine that sort of tech and it's given to the Orks from 40k, except the Orks were reptiles I think in this story.

Anyway, the crossover event starts with this race blowing up the Moon, because why not, despite there being several X-Men living on it at the time because of Krakoa stuff.

Reed somehow merges with some Watcher tech and becomes part Watcher himself, increasing his brain even more so he can figure out how to stop the uplifted. Problem is the change means Reed will die in 10 hours or so.

The answer turns out to be The Ultimate Nullifier.

Drama ensues because it turns out the TUN is "ackshually" Watcher tech all along and was made to stop the First War with the uplifted by wiping most of them out along with 9/10ths of the universe.

Event ends with Reed using TUN to stop the leader of the uplifted but because Reed is part Watcher at this point he can use TUN "properly" so only zaps the leader. It also zaps his Watcher powers returning him to normal. Also the missing 9/10ths of the universe is brought back leading to more options for various comics to explore even more space because everything from the last 30 years was only ever exploring 1/10th as a dumb retcon by Dan Slott.

DC used to be better about that kind of stuff, but they’ve been increasingly guilty of it too, lately.

Hey now, who doesn't want to see the end result of a massive arc leading to Perpetua the creator of all existence get sucker-punched and supplanted by The Joker Who Laughs who then gets into a cosmic fistfight with Wonder Woman... 🙃 That's the kind of ending nobody would expect!

Because it was retarded and somehow anticlimactic despite the forces in play.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points 301 days ago +2 / -0

Also the missing 9/10ths of the universe is brought back leading to more options for various comics to explore even more space because everything from the last 30 years was only ever exploring 1/10th as a dumb retcon by Dan Slott.

It’s incredible how similar that is to my big complaint about Perpetua.

“ACTUALLY, this entire multiverse is one of many multiverses! ACTUALLY, the majority of existence is on the other side of the Source Wall! ACTUALLY, there are a bunch of other Forces no one wanted for our terrible Flash comic, and a whole ultraviolet light spectrum things for mediocre Green Lantern comic! ACTUALLY, the big multiversal forces that defined the last 40 years of canon are the unruly children of some woman, and she herself answers to some vague team of OMNIVERSAL judges.” Just a bunch of tacked-on escalation that adds little at best, and negative things at worst.

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– Devidose 5 points 300 days ago +5 / -0

ACTUALLY, the majority of existence is on the other side of the Source Wall!

This was literally what Slott did with The Barrens which was the destroyed nine-tenths. The Watchers put up a barrier at the edge of the universe to keep the rest out because it was that much of a wasteland after the Ultimate Nullifier was used, and at the end of the event Utau brings down the barrier.

It was dumb when DC did it, it was dumb when Slott copied it. But then Slott sucks in general so that's par for the course.

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