were also covering for Obama/Hillary and all the rest.
Living through the Bush and Obama years it was clear and obvious that Hillary was going through the motions to be crowned after Obama was done, and seemingly crowned higher than anyone. She was continuously given high titles, fluffed by the media, and trotted in front of us despite no one liking her. Bill was liked by people, but Hillary was despised. Yet all political parties treated her like actual royalty. She clearly has power beyond what any of us understand, and I think that applies to even guys like Trump underestimating her and those around her.
I mean, compare Epstein to Podesta (one of Hillary's biggest power players). One worked with mostly teenage girls (still very illegal), and we are still allowed to talk and make conspiracies about it. The other was openly flaunting torturing children with all his cohorts, and we were literally forced to stop talking about it. And people still don't talk about it. People are right now talking about burning it all down over Epstein, just they just let Pizzagate go because the media told them to despite being 200% more horrific and evil.
The longer this goes on, the more the "you are not immune to propaganda" line becomes truer. Because comparing those two shows very obviously shows which one people were told to care about and which one they were told to move on from, even those of us on the side that pride on not falling for such. And part of that is blatantly obvious because Epstein could be used against Trump in some form, while Podesta was only Clinton/Obama and had literal one step removed from them and all their other cohorts that grant them such high level power.
The other was openly flaunting torturing children with all his cohorts, and we were literally forced to stop talking about it. And people still don't talk about it.
Largely correct but, for the record, Podesta is actually making the rounds again at the moment, due to people like Daryl Cooper, Tucker Carlson, Scott Horton, Dave Smith, and others.
But, yeah, Podesta wasn't talked about for ages, you're correct.
And, yeah, a bunch of why people care is optics, absolutely. This wouldn't be such a big deal if Trump hadn't appointed Kash and Bongino, and hadn't said he'd look into Epstein. It's silly, frustrating, but understandable. Things that get mainstream traction are going to be talked about more. The Podesta thing was largely smothered, and now the Epstein thing is having gas poured on the flames.
For the record, I've always wanted all the pedophiles and other monsters scooped up and stripped of their freedom and, more importantly, power. And I'm glad this got people talking about Podesta again, who is an absolute monster. Lock them all up. At a minimum.
Podesta is actually making the rounds again at the moment
Doesn't matter. Pizzagate was a "hoax" so everything involved with it is buried and cannot be used in any discussion with the majority of people. We never got a single explanation about any of the dozen things that had no reasonable explanation but evil, but a random guy "shot up" a pizza place so its gone. Anything from here has to build from scratch and has to go up against those prior accusations as he has been "the target of right wing conspiracies before."
I applaud people trying, but it'll never be sellable to the masses because of that. Unless he gets fully caught and jailed to allow the sharks to turn on him, they won that battle and protected him and all around him.
The Podesta thing was largely smothered, and now the Epstein thing is having gas poured on the flames.
And the reasonings for that are important enough to make me not want to get too up in arms about the Epstein thing outside principle. Not because it wasn't horrible, but because its being used to manipulate us and will bring about no justice. TPTB will take whatever it has, use it to destroy their enemies (while tossing some sacrificial lambs with no value from their own side) and then let it go. Nothing will be improved, we will have our standards used against us to police our own while they continue unrestrained.
Trump's handling of it has been retarded, but we've seen what a "real evil pedo ring" looks like versus one we are allowed to know about. And that difference is night and day, telling me more than blatantly that this is all a show to cover for something. For what, I don't know, but at this point even releasing the Epstein files will feel like a con.
For the record, I've always wanted all the pedophiles and other monsters scooped up and stripped of their freedom and, more importantly, power.
If it sounded like I meant otherwise, that was not my intent. You are a pretty reasonable man that I'd never think would believe any less.
The point about propaganda was about how they know when to allow these feelings to exist, to weaponize them, and when they have to crush them outright to protect themselves. They know how we will react to these things, how our emotions will flow. And the last 5+ years on the internet has seen "pedo!!" become such a massive boogeyman that it absolutely is not organic. We are being trained like attack dogs to lose sight of ourselves and our reasonability bit by bit, so that when the time comes we will lynch our own without a second thought.
This entire Epstein thing is showing itself to be more than just some dead pimp and the rich losers he sold teen girls to, and more about the channels of power that run even deeper than we thought. Not simple Mossad/Jew level, but actual background entities that we don't even think to name holding the real keys.
Epstein was FIRMLY a bipartisan problem, both the left and the right were pointing him out to try and bring down pet targets, and that's YUGE for keeping it in the public eye. That doubles the number of normies wanting to talk about it. When the marching order is "bury it" vs "no you" that's huge.
History is cyclical and nothing ever happens, but it's cyclical in a wind and release cycle. Things later down the line of the wind phase are "tighter" they're more impactful even if they're "less" of a thing in objective reality. The pressure cooker is apt because of this. Sure you might have added MORE heat during a previous event, but it's the threshold thay matters, every bit of heat adds up, and saying "whyd it blow now? I only added a single degree, three days ago I added 10 degrees" misses the physics of it
Your metaphor makes sense in a completely organic environment. Gamergate is probably a perfect example of one of those happening.
This I feel is the furthest from organic, its not only way too big and involving too many big people, but its people whose very power structure is in manipulations like that. In this way, we are just children wandering through the kitchen. Sure we could add heat and do all sorts of things that could "pop" the story, but the person actually cooking is also there and monitoring these things. Including the ability to turn the heat up or down as needed to fit their goals instead.
The longer this goes on, the more I feel like Epstein is a "we allowed you to know" situation that is being used for some purpose. The heat added was them expecting us to add heat.
You give the powers that be way to much credit. Rome fell. The Globohomo will too.
Not in some glorious struggle but because that's the nature of power, secrecy, and evil.
This isn't even claiming pattern, it's claiming nature. The "heat" in this case is how long it takes for someone to put their head on a pike. "Someone" can be anybody. It can be a pure hearted revolutionary or it can be their right hand deciding to rule 2 them and take over. Such things are inevitable, and they always cause a reset.
They will fall one day as all things will, but that doesn't mean they are completely powerless to do something as simple (to them) as social engineering.
The thing that decides if someone finally breaks and puts their head on a pike is a heat that they have considerable control over. Not perfect, not even close, but they can influence it. And there are a lot of heads that need taking if we are to really even make a dent here, which means a lot of "popping."
Living through the Bush and Obama years it was clear and obvious that Hillary was going through the motions to be crowned after Obama was done, and seemingly crowned higher than anyone. She was continuously given high titles, fluffed by the media, and trotted in front of us despite no one liking her. Bill was liked by people, but Hillary was despised. Yet all political parties treated her like actual royalty. She clearly has power beyond what any of us understand, and I think that applies to even guys like Trump underestimating her and those around her.
I mean, compare Epstein to Podesta (one of Hillary's biggest power players). One worked with mostly teenage girls (still very illegal), and we are still allowed to talk and make conspiracies about it. The other was openly flaunting torturing children with all his cohorts, and we were literally forced to stop talking about it. And people still don't talk about it. People are right now talking about burning it all down over Epstein, just they just let Pizzagate go because the media told them to despite being 200% more horrific and evil.
The longer this goes on, the more the "you are not immune to propaganda" line becomes truer. Because comparing those two shows very obviously shows which one people were told to care about and which one they were told to move on from, even those of us on the side that pride on not falling for such. And part of that is blatantly obvious because Epstein could be used against Trump in some form, while Podesta was only Clinton/Obama and had literal one step removed from them and all their other cohorts that grant them such high level power.
Largely correct but, for the record, Podesta is actually making the rounds again at the moment, due to people like Daryl Cooper, Tucker Carlson, Scott Horton, Dave Smith, and others.
But, yeah, Podesta wasn't talked about for ages, you're correct.
And, yeah, a bunch of why people care is optics, absolutely. This wouldn't be such a big deal if Trump hadn't appointed Kash and Bongino, and hadn't said he'd look into Epstein. It's silly, frustrating, but understandable. Things that get mainstream traction are going to be talked about more. The Podesta thing was largely smothered, and now the Epstein thing is having gas poured on the flames.
For the record, I've always wanted all the pedophiles and other monsters scooped up and stripped of their freedom and, more importantly, power. And I'm glad this got people talking about Podesta again, who is an absolute monster. Lock them all up. At a minimum.
Doesn't matter. Pizzagate was a "hoax" so everything involved with it is buried and cannot be used in any discussion with the majority of people. We never got a single explanation about any of the dozen things that had no reasonable explanation but evil, but a random guy "shot up" a pizza place so its gone. Anything from here has to build from scratch and has to go up against those prior accusations as he has been "the target of right wing conspiracies before."
I applaud people trying, but it'll never be sellable to the masses because of that. Unless he gets fully caught and jailed to allow the sharks to turn on him, they won that battle and protected him and all around him.
And the reasonings for that are important enough to make me not want to get too up in arms about the Epstein thing outside principle. Not because it wasn't horrible, but because its being used to manipulate us and will bring about no justice. TPTB will take whatever it has, use it to destroy their enemies (while tossing some sacrificial lambs with no value from their own side) and then let it go. Nothing will be improved, we will have our standards used against us to police our own while they continue unrestrained.
Trump's handling of it has been retarded, but we've seen what a "real evil pedo ring" looks like versus one we are allowed to know about. And that difference is night and day, telling me more than blatantly that this is all a show to cover for something. For what, I don't know, but at this point even releasing the Epstein files will feel like a con.
If it sounded like I meant otherwise, that was not my intent. You are a pretty reasonable man that I'd never think would believe any less.
The point about propaganda was about how they know when to allow these feelings to exist, to weaponize them, and when they have to crush them outright to protect themselves. They know how we will react to these things, how our emotions will flow. And the last 5+ years on the internet has seen "pedo!!" become such a massive boogeyman that it absolutely is not organic. We are being trained like attack dogs to lose sight of ourselves and our reasonability bit by bit, so that when the time comes we will lynch our own without a second thought.
This entire Epstein thing is showing itself to be more than just some dead pimp and the rich losers he sold teen girls to, and more about the channels of power that run even deeper than we thought. Not simple Mossad/Jew level, but actual background entities that we don't even think to name holding the real keys.
The other thirds of it though are
Epstein was FIRMLY a bipartisan problem, both the left and the right were pointing him out to try and bring down pet targets, and that's YUGE for keeping it in the public eye. That doubles the number of normies wanting to talk about it. When the marching order is "bury it" vs "no you" that's huge.
History is cyclical and nothing ever happens, but it's cyclical in a wind and release cycle. Things later down the line of the wind phase are "tighter" they're more impactful even if they're "less" of a thing in objective reality. The pressure cooker is apt because of this. Sure you might have added MORE heat during a previous event, but it's the threshold thay matters, every bit of heat adds up, and saying "whyd it blow now? I only added a single degree, three days ago I added 10 degrees" misses the physics of it
Your metaphor makes sense in a completely organic environment. Gamergate is probably a perfect example of one of those happening.
This I feel is the furthest from organic, its not only way too big and involving too many big people, but its people whose very power structure is in manipulations like that. In this way, we are just children wandering through the kitchen. Sure we could add heat and do all sorts of things that could "pop" the story, but the person actually cooking is also there and monitoring these things. Including the ability to turn the heat up or down as needed to fit their goals instead.
The longer this goes on, the more I feel like Epstein is a "we allowed you to know" situation that is being used for some purpose. The heat added was them expecting us to add heat.
You give the powers that be way to much credit. Rome fell. The Globohomo will too.
Not in some glorious struggle but because that's the nature of power, secrecy, and evil.
This isn't even claiming pattern, it's claiming nature. The "heat" in this case is how long it takes for someone to put their head on a pike. "Someone" can be anybody. It can be a pure hearted revolutionary or it can be their right hand deciding to rule 2 them and take over. Such things are inevitable, and they always cause a reset.
They will fall one day as all things will, but that doesn't mean they are completely powerless to do something as simple (to them) as social engineering.
The thing that decides if someone finally breaks and puts their head on a pike is a heat that they have considerable control over. Not perfect, not even close, but they can influence it. And there are a lot of heads that need taking if we are to really even make a dent here, which means a lot of "popping."