Finally, the first Epstein charge has come in.
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Note that he is being charged for threatening to kill people on the Epstein List, as well as three government officials. But this is supposed to be a 'true threat'.
Suppose I say that I vow to kill everyone on an empty list. Is that a true threat? What if I believe that the list is not empty?
It's weird all around.
The bar that SCOTUS has previously set for protected vs unprotected speech is that your threat must be realistically actionable in order for it to qualify as a genuine death threat, just as incitement to violence is only criminal if there is a realistic possibility that someone might actually act on your words.
Threatening to kill hypothetical individuals on a hypothetical list that official sources all insist is not real does not seem to meet that criterion, but we'll see if the courts try to walk it back.
It's going to massively depend on the quality of his lawyer. If he ends up with a public defender he's fucked because they're overworked and they advise everyone to plea bargain to get the case off their plates ASAP. A lawyer with the time and talent could easily get this tossed, but those cost a pretty penny.
The list doesn't need to exist for this statement to be a threat. All that has to happen is someone needs to furnish him a list of their enemies and convince him it's The Epstein List™️. And I doubt that would be terribly difficult given the guy is clearly an absolute retard if he's willing to announce his murder spree ahead of time.
Man, way too many retards here downvoting you who can't recognize obvious truths that contradict their feelings.
We're not going to win anything by behaving like abject retards, so if you are an abject retard, please try and engage appropriately. Everyone else needs to pay attention to that shit, so you don't unconsciously internalize it yourselves just because someone typed a few words that trigger you like "Epstein List". It is not at all an exaggeration to say that a healthy portion of the need for secrecy, is to account for the existence of abject retards.
A huge portion of the right has basically made The List their entire personality even though the existence of such a thing makes no sense. Apparently it's simply a given that Epstein wrote down all his crimes in a handy dandy notebook. Because that's something criminal masterminds do.
Now they all have TDS because he made fun of them for it, so they're gonna own drumpf by not voting in the midterms and letting progressive extremists commit genocide. That'll teach him!
Interesting take.
Yea, people who are obsessed with a list of clients, obtained from the collection of evidence through various sources, are missing the forest for the trees. The solution, however, is not voting. The solution is actually learning, growing and becoming a better person, who can meaningfully challenge corruption. Expecting someone else to do it all for you is exactly why we're in this mess.