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Cernovich goes off the deep end with baffling claim about Protestants (twitter.com)
posted 326 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 326 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +40 / -0
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– auroch 3 points 326 days ago +3 / -0

They imply no such thing.

They do, though. Of course they do. In basically any other context (including terms like "motherland" or "mother of [field]"), a "mother" is someone that literally spawned someone/something that didn't exist before. God spawned Himself on Earth using Mary as a vessel. Boiling that down to "Mother of God" is very misleading.

It's the same with the term "Queen of Heaven." It most definitely implies that she has rulership over heaven, even if it isn't supposed to. It's true that "in My Father's house are many mansions," and it seems like a safe bet that Mary has one of the nicest ones. But Queen of Heaven? No. That's misleading.

I have literally never heard that spoken aloud in my lifetime.

I mean, I literally got it from the source above. If you want to say it isn't official enough, ok, but I'm not making this up.

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– Kaarous 2 points 326 days ago +2 / -0

They do, though.

They really don't, and they originated a thousand years before the English semantic terms you're trying to use to parse them out ever existed.

It most definitely implies that she has rulership over heaven

No, that's just speaking from ignorance again.

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– auroch 2 points 326 days ago +2 / -0

If you don't think it's reasonable to believe that a Queen might rule over a kingdom (since we don't use the term "queendom"), then I don't know what to tell you.

ignorance ... that would be ignorance of the theology we're talking about in the first place.

But that's part of my point. Lots of laymen without deep theological knowledge go to church, right? It's part of why they go. To someone like that, this sort of thing can definitely be deeply misleading, possibly to the point of idolatry. And it's certainly not necessary.

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– Kaarous 2 points 326 days ago +2 / -0

You still don't get it, apparently.

No.

Too many religions, in fact too many things in general are dumbed down for the braindead postmodernist proles already. You lose gravitas and moral legitimacy when you do crap like that.

The answer is no. No no and thrice no.

To someone like that

Someone like that is welcome to go listen to the saxophone and hold hands in an Episcopal "church" with the rest of the theological illiterates.

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– auroch 2 points 326 days ago +2 / -0

when you do crap like that

Crap like what? Not addressing a fellow human as "Queen of Heaven?"

Don't get me wrong, I think that even devout, theologically minded people are in danger of idolatry with behavior like that. But even more so for regular people who want to seek Jesus. Writing them off as "theological illiterates" is... certainly a take.

go listen to the saxophone and hold hands in an Episcopal "church" with the rest of the theological illiterates.

And would those people be saved, if they had repented to Jesus?

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