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Federal judge rules copyrighted books are fair use for AI training (archive.is)
posted 357 days ago by YesMovement 357 days ago by YesMovement +44 / -0
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– AtrociKitty 6 points 357 days ago +6 / -0

If there is a difference, in your mind, what do you think that it is?

The text-to-speech application is a transient means of communicating the book. It's no different from opening the e-book on a monitor to read the words. Meanwhile, the LLM is ingesting and storing the text of the book. It's an illegal copy permanently stored in the model's dataset.

That said, I'd rather this be resolved by fixing the issues with copyright. This ruling is just another example of the two-tiered system, where AI training is fair use, while you giving a copy to a friend is infringement.

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– SR388-SAX 10 points 357 days ago +10 / -0

Meanwhile, the LLM is ingesting and storing the text of the book

That's not how it works.

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– I_Miss_Imp 3 points 356 days ago +3 / -0

Is it not though? Are you saying after book X is used for training that you couldn’t then prompt the AI to “tell me word for word the exact text of book X”?

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– DemolitionsPanda 1 point 355 days ago +1 / -0

No, the book isn't copied or stored. The LLM can't regurgitate it on command, because it isn't inside the model.

You can ask the LLM to write new, never before seen text in the style of that author.

Training a LLM is a lot more like reading a book to a toddler than it is like making a digital copy. Neither the toddler or the LLM can repeat the words of the book.

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– AtrociKitty 1 point 355 days ago +1 / -0

In terms of copyright, yes it is. It doesn't matter that the book isn't literally copy-pasted into a vector database. The text is used verbatim as training data, and from there isn't made into a sufficiently transformative work to constitute fair use (plus it's commercial). Training data, even if it can neither be recalled on demand nor exists in whole form, has still been stored within the model's semantic memory.

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