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Well that didn't take long (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 354 days ago by horstshort 354 days ago by horstshort +78 / -0
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– Gizortnik 3 points 354 days ago +3 / -0

It's not a false flag. Those were real missiles from Iran.

However, Iran said they had the right under the ceasefire to continue firing these last remaining missiles. ... However, they also said they hadn't agreed to a ceasefire. ... However, the Iranian legislature said they agreed to a ceasefire. ... However, Iran doesn't have very good reasons to end the war when they could prolong it to their advantage.

At this point, I think the war has begun spiraling out of control, such that no one is clear what is going on, even the belligerents themselves.

I think Israel and Iran are trying to give themselves Casus Belli to continue the war even after something had been negotiated with the Qataris.

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– SocraticMethod1 5 points 354 days ago +5 / -0

Given how much of Iranians command the Israelis effectively assassinated, is there enough let TO allow stable communications there for a ceasefire to be passed down the chain in an orderly fashion?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 354 days ago +2 / -0

That's my point, I have no idea if there is, and I can't say "Yes".

I can't even say "Yes" for Israel because Bibi is a liar and the War Hawks will subvert peace.

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– SocraticMethod1 3 points 354 days ago +3 / -0

Welcome to the reason why over 70 years ago, the US DIDN'T nuke Tokyo.

Because it's hard to negotiate especially a surrender when you turn a lot of their command to ash..

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– Gizortnik 3 points 354 days ago +3 / -0

I think you're off base on this. That's not why we didn't nuke Tokyo (also it was still on a target list).

Remember, the worst firebombing raid in human history happened in Tokyo. We killed 150,000 in a single night. The initial death toll in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are far lower than that. That number comes from Robert McNamara having a conversation with Curtis LeMay, who came up with the raid.

We didn't really care what was left of them, but someone would surrender or we were going to kill literally everyone.

We didn't nuke Tokyo because it was better defended.

Killing each negotiator who isn't amenable to your demands is a viable strategy, but it's a ruthless one.

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– 5Cats 1 point 353 days ago +1 / -0

That's the reason they didn't nuke Kyoto (the capital) because killing off the entire government would make it hard to talk to, you know, their government. 🙄

They didn't nuke Tokyo because it had been effectively destroyed already. That one firebomb raid (for 3 days & nights, iirc) killed 150K and literally turned much of the city to ashes.

But Iran is FAR from that situation. IDF did wipe out 12 of the top air defense commanders, causing chaos while they destroyed their air defense network, but there's still hundreds of generals (or the equivalent, like commanding Colonels) out there to give & receive orders.

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