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posted 345 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 345 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +14 / -0
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– horstshort 6 points 345 days ago +6 / -0

Yeah, if you continue to believe in the fairy tale named democracy then yes Europeans will perish and become a footnote of history.

Elections don't fix shit. Never have and never will. Even Hitler didn't succeed because he got elected but because the overwhelmingly majority of Germans supported him.

But if you look around you're starting to notice that the overton window has dramatically shifted during the last 10 years. The younger generations especially are pissed.

It's your choice if you want to go the doomer route and try to escape to someplace safe that doesn't exist or if you actually want to fix the situation.

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– Piroko 1 point 345 days ago +1 / -0

Even Hitler didn't succeed because he got elected

But he still had to get elected.

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– horstshort 1 point 345 days ago +1 / -0

What makes you say that? Because the coup in 23' failed when Hitler wasn't nearly as well known and popular as in 33'?

Don't make the mistake of thinking what was possible in a 'democracy' a hundred years ago is possible today. The only thing elections are good for is to expose what a monumental scam the system is. You can't work within a system to change the system. Not even Hitler did that. He abolished the system.

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– Piroko 1 point 345 days ago +1 / -0

And you're making the mistake of thinking that the right would come out on top.

In America, there is no question, the right would win.

In Europe... I don't take that as a given. Let's do a hypothetical. Suppose the Dutch succeed in getting a far right government, pull out of the Schengen area, and start mass deporting immigrants.

You're asking me to believe two things:

  1. That the Germans WON'T assemble an EU army and invade them Donetsk style.
  2. That there won't be a significant fifth column of Dutch who welcome them (again, Donetsk style).

The problem in Europe is that the far right is not an outright majority, but rather barely a plurality. In the US, the right as both enormous real power and enormous territorial dominance; the left is divided in a few city-state enclaves, but two thirds of the states have bright red, outright majority conservative governments. We've won before we've started, we're just telling California and New York to get on with it and secede already.

That isn't the case in Europe. The only territorial concentration of the far right is East Germany.

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