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Looks like the JIDF talking point of calling opposers "Qataris" has gone mainstream (twitter.com)
posted 353 days ago by theaustrianpainter 353 days ago by theaustrianpainter +72 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 15 points 353 days ago +15 / -0

Qatar's influence in the US is more unchecked than Saudi Arabia and Israel because they play both sides of the coin.

I have 4.5B reasons you're wrong

And as to Qatar funding a bunch of Arab terrorist goons, we fund a state that is currently, officially doing ethnic cleansing. We also toppled Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Lybia on behalf of said state, resulting in close to 1M dead if not over that. Let me know when Hamas passes a 1M body count.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 353 days ago +1 / -0

Your ascribing Israel to GAE interests. These are not the same. The changing of governments in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, and even arguably Iraq was at the behest of the globalist objectives, not necessarily Israel. Israel benefited from Iraq and Syria, but it almost completely failed with Egypt as the Muslim Brotherhood very nearly took power with the support of the Obama administration.

Qatar's proxies are constantly engaging in ethnic cleansing because no one in the middle east opposes the idea because none of them are Liberal states. ISIS, particularly, had no objection to it.

Even with all that, your choosing to blame all deaths in all cases in those countries on Israel, via the US. You're ignoring that the actual fighters on the ground in many of those countries, whom were committing those actual massacres, were being funded by parent states... like Qatar.

For example, you're blaming the COP Speicher massacre on Israel, rather than ISIS and it's funder, because something something US involvement in 2003 something something jews.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 352 days ago +4 / -0

The Clean Break memo speaks for itself.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 352 days ago +2 / -0

The changing of governments in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, and even arguably Iraq was at the behest of the globalist objectives, not necessarily Israel.

Ever heard of the Clean Break memo? Let's see, who was that commissioned for... Netan... Netanyahoo...

Even with all that, your choosing to blame all deaths in all cases in those countries on Israel, via the US. You're ignoring that the actual fighters on the ground in many of those countries, whom were committing those actual massacres, were being funded by parent states... like Qatar.

"You break it, you buy it" was the line when we invaded Iraq, right?

Who could have predicted that tons of people would die in Lybia and Syria after we forced regime change? Everyone who was alive during Iraq II, obviously.

We should have been able to tell that Iraq would break down into vast sectarian violence as well, for that matter.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 352 days ago +1 / -0

Yes, it looks archaic as fuck and has little to do with reality on the ground right now.

As we can see Israel is more dependent on the US now, not less. There is no Heshimite rule of Iraq, that's a total failure. Iraq is closer to Iran now than it is even the US, not Jordan. Worse, the idiot who proposed that, Ahmed Chalabi was a lying thief, was jailed for his corruption, and is now fucking dead. Syria was not confronted in Lebanon, it was confronted in Syria. Iran is confronted in Lebanon, but frankly that's because Lebanon barely has control over it's own borders since the Syrian Civil War started. Pursuing terrorists into Gaza is long since over and failed since they didn't do enough of that, then got invaded, now Israel seems to be stuck in a permanent slog in northern Gaza.

It doesn't seem to mention anything with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey which are now much more serious players in the ME than they were when this was first drafted, and they have no answer to it.

Israel, Turkey, and Jordan are supposed to work together to achieve it's goals. Well, Jordan doesn't ever do anything, and Turkey is now an adversary.

All this shows is that Bibi is self-assured and arrogant as he is wrong.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 352 days ago +3 / -0

Yes, it looks archaic as fuck and has little to do with reality on the ground right now.

Huh? The memo set goals of removing Saddam Hussein and handicapping Syria with WMD claims, as well as destabilizing other rivals. Exactly what happened!!

It's impossible for it to be "archaic as fuck." It's not a machine. It was a set of policy goals that were implemented.

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