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Looks like the JIDF talking point of calling opposers "Qataris" has gone mainstream (twitter.com)
posted 354 days ago by theaustrianpainter 354 days ago by theaustrianpainter +72 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 353 days ago +1 / -0

Yes, it looks archaic as fuck and has little to do with reality on the ground right now.

As we can see Israel is more dependent on the US now, not less. There is no Heshimite rule of Iraq, that's a total failure. Iraq is closer to Iran now than it is even the US, not Jordan. Worse, the idiot who proposed that, Ahmed Chalabi was a lying thief, was jailed for his corruption, and is now fucking dead. Syria was not confronted in Lebanon, it was confronted in Syria. Iran is confronted in Lebanon, but frankly that's because Lebanon barely has control over it's own borders since the Syrian Civil War started. Pursuing terrorists into Gaza is long since over and failed since they didn't do enough of that, then got invaded, now Israel seems to be stuck in a permanent slog in northern Gaza.

It doesn't seem to mention anything with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey which are now much more serious players in the ME than they were when this was first drafted, and they have no answer to it.

Israel, Turkey, and Jordan are supposed to work together to achieve it's goals. Well, Jordan doesn't ever do anything, and Turkey is now an adversary.

All this shows is that Bibi is self-assured and arrogant as he is wrong.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 353 days ago +3 / -0

Yes, it looks archaic as fuck and has little to do with reality on the ground right now.

Huh? The memo set goals of removing Saddam Hussein and handicapping Syria with WMD claims, as well as destabilizing other rivals. Exactly what happened!!

It's impossible for it to be "archaic as fuck." It's not a machine. It was a set of policy goals that were implemented.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 353 days ago +1 / -0

Most of it's policies appear to have failed. Yes, Saddam got removed... and replaced by a pro-Iranian government, rather than supportive of Jordan.

Syria had WMD claims... eventually, after the Civil War already started, and Assad basically eliminated the claim by ending his entire WMD program in full. He almost won the war, but did eventually lose it with the help of the US and SA. WMD's weren't a destabalizing force. Syria's gone and replaced with a Jihadist regime, as if that's somehow a positive for Israel.

Yes, these seemed like a plan in 1996 and every one of these ideas took the first step... and all of the other steps failed afterwards.

Again, Turkey is an enemy of Israel at this point.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 353 days ago +3 / -0

Most of it's policies appear to have failed. Yes, Saddam got removed... and replaced by a pro-Iranian government, rather than supportive of Jordan.

The policy was to remove Saddam. The policy succeeded.

Syria had WMD claims... eventually, after the Civil War already started, and Assad basically eliminated the claim by ending his entire WMD program in full.

So it weakened Assad. Aka destabilized Syria. WMDs are a massive deterrent factor.

As to your claim that Israel is worse off for each regime that has been toppled, LOL. Israel just took the Golan Heights from Syria again. They also just beat Hezbollah into the ground. Assad's fall has been very good for Israel.

"Bbbbut jihadist regime" that is weak and basically a vassal of the CIA that put it in power.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 353 days ago +1 / -0

Yes, Israel took territory, specifically the Golan Heights... again... how many times are they going to have to constantly re-take that ground? How long until they will inevitably lose it or trade it with a power that will arm their border again.

"Bbbbut jihadist regime" that is weak and basically a vassal of the CIA that put it in power.

So was the Taliban and Saddam himself.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 352 days ago +1 / -0

Most of it's policies appear to have failed. Yes, Saddam got removed... and replaced by a pro-Iranian government, rather than supportive of Jordan.

Syria's gone and replaced with a Jihadist regime, as if that's somehow a positive for Israel.

By the way, word is out on the flight path for the bombings now. Israeli planes are primarily striking from Iraqi airspace with a side of Syrian and Jordanian airspace. Israeli tankers are loitering over Syria. Very hostile governments to Israel!

Mossad operators also took out Iranian air defenses in a ground operation likely infiltrating through Iraq or Turkey. Or maybe Pakistan. Israel truly has no friends!!

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– Gizortnik 1 point 352 days ago +1 / -0

They are hostile to Israel, but there's nothing any of them can do to stop Israel. Syria and Iraq are in open opposition to them, but they have no real air force left, and they don't want to get dragged into the war.

Jordan is on our side, that's a different story.

Pakistan's ISI would have killed Mossad agents on sight. The Turks wouldn't have cared. The Iraqis can't stop them at all.

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