You're citing it in an argument. It's apparently too much of an effort to look it up yourself, so you expect me to do your work for you?
I mean, of course, it's complete nonsense. You're just still sipping the Bush Kool Aid, more than anyone.
They knew they had WMDs because the US sold them to Iraq. ๐
And they were destroyed soon after the first Iraq War. Speaking of which, I thought you were such great humanitarians, and that you try to avoid civilian casualties. But you sell WMDs to Iraq so it can use them on civilian targets and even "his own people"?
Didn't you just say the opposite about Iran? Isn't the argument for "returning Iran's "own money"" that The Shaw exploited the people of Iran for his personal wealth? Therefore his wealth actually belongs to the people/state? Even moreso for the Tsars.
I think I clearly pointed out that I was not talking about any 1979 seizures, but the more recent ones. That's the money that Obama returned by unfreezing bank assets, right?
Later you say it was their money "from oil sales" which were illegal under international embargos
Is it? I assume you're going to tell me to LOOK IT UP YOURSELF here as well. So I'll just laugh at the fact that you try to invoke international law while defending the war in Iraq.
All they gave me was a link to the thread involved, with ~100+ comments. I figured out which was my offending comment from the deleted ones, and remembered I had replied with a joke to another comment which was also deleted. :/ The appeals just got the same form message, no word on what I had said that violated the rules.
There have been people who didn't even get that. Only "violations of policy as a user and a moderator".
I make an illegal right turn, you went 100 mph through a school zone at lunchtime... SAME THING! ๐ธ So yes.
Rather, "you went 100 mph through a school zone JUST LIKE ME but you did it once more!"
Of course, that's not even true, but just your vapid claim. If you look at the number of regime changes and coups that your beloved deep state neocons have sponsored, it's quite a bit more than those dreaded Eye-Ran-Ians.
I say I condemn it
You do? I sure didn't notice, but props if you do anyway.
Israel has excessive "cause bellum" to bomb Syria or Iran! Assad had a chemical weapons program (fact) & Israel blew it to hell (fact) despite Russia having given Assad advanced air defenses (fact). Assad regularly launched missiles into Israel, supported terrorist groups & allowed weapon shipments to those groups.
This looks like an AI hallucination. If it's not, please think your claims through before posting it. It's not illegal for Syria to have had a chemical weapons program, nor did Israel blow it up - but the bombings of Syria were an act of illegal aggression under international law which your deep state friends habitually violate, even while you hide behind it when you think it can provide you cover.
Is there a single deep state war / act of aggression that you DON'T support?
You are also talking about it's proxy-armies too. It's like only talking about 3 of an octopus's arms & pretending the other 5 don't exist. Octopuses don't have 3 arms, ok? They have 8.
I thought you defended proxy armies as "revolutionaries" when it suits the deep state thugs.
If 5 of them are strangling me, you point to the 3 that aren't and say "that octopus isn't harming you, these 3 arms are totally innocent! Leave the poor octopus alone!" ๐
So wait, people have the right to strike back at the US for sponsoring proxy armies? I agree. Too bad the only way to do that is to develop nuclear weapons.
Um, what? Me? When did I say anything remotely like that? Are you projecting? ๐คจ
I think I clearly pointed out that I was not talking about any 1979 seizures, but the more recent ones.
And I was clearly talking about how the assets seized from illegal oil sales does not belong to the current government, but to the next legitimate government of Iran. You aren't aware of the various embargos the international community has against Iran? Ok then.
Of course, that's not even true, but just your vapid claim.
Do I need to link you the meaning of "hyperbole" again? ๐น
You do? I sure didn't notice, but props if you do anyway.
I do! When it's real and not propaganda from Israel's enemies, including the US Media and entire Democrat party. Like Al-Ahli Hospital for a clear example. Unless 200 people were in that parking lot? Or 900+ people were in an 80 bed unit? It's pretty obvious it was a Hamas group's rocket falling short. Look at this MASSIVE crater!
Sounds like an Ai hallucination
Oh ffs, your ignorance of facts is not my problem bro. How many times will I link facts before you admit I "might" have a firm grasp on them? 10? 50? 100? I've done that in the past, linked well over 100 times to prove my points & the guy still refused to believe a word I said. He'd also link "proofs" of his "facts" but at least half of them actually supported my position or had no relation to what he claimed. Read it and weep or is this a "Mossad front" now?
I'll presume you're using hyperbole when you justify using nuclear weapons on 3rd party civilians. ๐คฃ
Um, what? Me? When did I say anything remotely like that? Are you projecting? ๐คจ
You're defending US deep state actions, so... 'you'.
It's noted that you couldn't substantiate your claim about Iraqi WMD being moved to Syria.
And I was clearly talking about how the assets seized from illegal oil sales does not belong to the current government,
You were "clearly" talking about all sorts of things that ain't so, like oil sales being illegal. Quite rich from an Iraq War supporter, too... the paradigmatic illegal action under international law.
Do I need to link you the meaning of "hyperbole" again? ๐น
Claiming that Iran has done more coups and regime change isn't even hyperbole, just a straight up lie.
I do! When it's real and not propaganda from Israel's enemies, including the US Media and entire Democrat party. Like Al-Ahli Hospital for a clear example. Unless 200 people were in that parking lot? Or 900+ people were in an 80 bed unit? It's pretty obvious it was a Hamas group's rocket falling short.
Great, you managed to not condemn something that I didn't bring up. Do you mind mentioning what you do condemn? So far, zilch.
Oh ffs, your ignorance of facts is not my problem bro.
There's a good reason you cut out what came after, and instead resorted to name-calling. It's because your deep state talking points fail quite hard when confronted with actual facts: "It's not illegal for Syria to have had a chemical weapons program, nor did Israel blow it up - but the bombings of Syria were an act of illegal aggression under international law which your deep state friends habitually violate, even while you hide behind it when you think it can provide you cover."
How many times will I link facts before you admit I "might" have a firm grasp on them? 10?
So far, you're at zero. The only good point you made was about the accuracy of weapons, and that was logic, not facts.
Read it and weep or is this a "Mossad front" now?
Absolutely brilliant. You do know that the terrorists your government supported had driven Assad out by the time of this particular Israeli airstrike, right? Again: you really have no idea what you're talking about, beyond regurgitating neocon talking points.
I'll presume you're using hyperbole when you justify using nuclear weapons on 3rd party civilians. ๐คฃ
I'm glad to hear you oppose your country's nuking of Japan. You started out with some intelligent comments before going off the rails, and hopefully, you can return there.
Do the words "sanctions" or "embargo" have no meaning to you? Yes they sell oil, mostly to China who did not sign on to these sanctions. But if a company in a nation that does sign on buys oil from Iran, they get a hefty fine & the money is confiscated, held in trust for the future, legitimate government.
If I have to explain how sanctions work? I can only suspect you're just trolling me now.
Iran had NO involvement in Lebanon or Yemen. Nope! None at all! ๐ ๐ You're too funny!
There's a good reason you cut out what came after,
I went to work? That's cowardly of me? I'll keep that in mind as you dodge & evade. "The only good point you made was about the accuracy of weapons, and that was logic, not facts." Oh bullshit. You claimed these missiles were "aimed" at valid military target in Israel. I said they aren't that accurate. You argued, I proved it. I also gave an example of an "atrocity" I didn't believe in. You say it isn't one YOU talked bout, but the fact remains: Hamas lies non-stop and idiots out there believe every word of it. 900+ casualties from THAT bomb crater? Seriously now.
Canada here. Not a Yank. I DO support the use of atomic weapons to end WW2. They saved a minimum of 200,000 allied lives, 800,000 wounded. They also saved a minimum of 3 million Japanese civilian deaths, and 2 million Army deaths too. At an absolute minimum. And that was just for the first landing of Downfall: Operation Olympic.
It's TOO HARD for you to type "Did Saddam Move His Weapons?" in a search engine? It is well reported
Guy claims to have "UN report proving that Saddam moved weapons to Syria". Proves it with... editorial. How embarrassing is it to be you?
By non-Jews no less, I know you'd outright reject them.
You 'know' that? More proof that your mind is a vast desert, guy who believes that Iranians are Arabs.
Yes they sell oil, mostly to China who did not sign on to these sanctions
"You aren't aware of the various embargos the international community has against Iran?"
So it wasn't the international community. Good to know that you were lying once again. Though given how extreme your ignorance is, one can't know if you're lying or just have no idea what you're talking about.
I went to work?
You're old enough? Then I can't imagine anyone hiring you for anything.
You claimed these missiles were "aimed" at valid military target in Israel. I said they aren't that accurate. You argued, I proved it.
You can't even give an honest accounting of the things you yourself were involved in. So OK.
I also gave an example of an "atrocity" I didn't believe in. You say it isn't one YOU talked bout, but the fact remains: Hamas lies non-stop and idiots out there believe every word of it
It honestly feels like I'm talking to a child. I asked you which of the US government atrocities you don't believe in, and you start ranting about Hamas. For the record: the US government lies continuously and you gulp up every last lie, and even defend lies from 20 years ago.
I DO support the use of atomic weapons
Great, then Iran gets to have nuclear weapons, and I guess use them to.
You're citing it in an argument. It's apparently too much of an effort to look it up yourself, so you expect me to do your work for you?
I mean, of course, it's complete nonsense. You're just still sipping the Bush Kool Aid, more than anyone.
And they were destroyed soon after the first Iraq War. Speaking of which, I thought you were such great humanitarians, and that you try to avoid civilian casualties. But you sell WMDs to Iraq so it can use them on civilian targets and even "his own people"?
I think I clearly pointed out that I was not talking about any 1979 seizures, but the more recent ones. That's the money that Obama returned by unfreezing bank assets, right?
Is it? I assume you're going to tell me to LOOK IT UP YOURSELF here as well. So I'll just laugh at the fact that you try to invoke international law while defending the war in Iraq.
There have been people who didn't even get that. Only "violations of policy as a user and a moderator".
Rather, "you went 100 mph through a school zone JUST LIKE ME but you did it once more!"
Of course, that's not even true, but just your vapid claim. If you look at the number of regime changes and coups that your beloved deep state neocons have sponsored, it's quite a bit more than those dreaded Eye-Ran-Ians.
You do? I sure didn't notice, but props if you do anyway.
This looks like an AI hallucination. If it's not, please think your claims through before posting it. It's not illegal for Syria to have had a chemical weapons program, nor did Israel blow it up - but the bombings of Syria were an act of illegal aggression under international law which your deep state friends habitually violate, even while you hide behind it when you think it can provide you cover.
Is there a single deep state war / act of aggression that you DON'T support?
I thought you defended proxy armies as "revolutionaries" when it suits the deep state thugs.
So wait, people have the right to strike back at the US for sponsoring proxy armies? I agree. Too bad the only way to do that is to develop nuclear weapons.
Um, what? Me? When did I say anything remotely like that? Are you projecting? ๐คจ
And I was clearly talking about how the assets seized from illegal oil sales does not belong to the current government, but to the next legitimate government of Iran. You aren't aware of the various embargos the international community has against Iran? Ok then.
Do I need to link you the meaning of "hyperbole" again? ๐น
I do! When it's real and not propaganda from Israel's enemies, including the US Media and entire Democrat party. Like Al-Ahli Hospital for a clear example. Unless 200 people were in that parking lot? Or 900+ people were in an 80 bed unit? It's pretty obvious it was a Hamas group's rocket falling short.
Look at this MASSIVE crater!
Oh ffs, your ignorance of facts is not my problem bro. How many times will I link facts before you admit I "might" have a firm grasp on them? 10? 50? 100? I've done that in the past, linked well over 100 times to prove my points & the guy still refused to believe a word I said. He'd also link "proofs" of his "facts" but at least half of them actually supported my position or had no relation to what he claimed.
Read it and weep or is this a "Mossad front" now?
I'll presume you're using hyperbole when you justify using nuclear weapons on 3rd party civilians. ๐คฃ
You're defending US deep state actions, so... 'you'.
It's noted that you couldn't substantiate your claim about Iraqi WMD being moved to Syria.
You were "clearly" talking about all sorts of things that ain't so, like oil sales being illegal. Quite rich from an Iraq War supporter, too... the paradigmatic illegal action under international law.
Claiming that Iran has done more coups and regime change isn't even hyperbole, just a straight up lie.
Great, you managed to not condemn something that I didn't bring up. Do you mind mentioning what you do condemn? So far, zilch.
There's a good reason you cut out what came after, and instead resorted to name-calling. It's because your deep state talking points fail quite hard when confronted with actual facts: "It's not illegal for Syria to have had a chemical weapons program, nor did Israel blow it up - but the bombings of Syria were an act of illegal aggression under international law which your deep state friends habitually violate, even while you hide behind it when you think it can provide you cover."
So far, you're at zero. The only good point you made was about the accuracy of weapons, and that was logic, not facts.
Absolutely brilliant. You do know that the terrorists your government supported had driven Assad out by the time of this particular Israeli airstrike, right? Again: you really have no idea what you're talking about, beyond regurgitating neocon talking points.
I'm glad to hear you oppose your country's nuking of Japan. You started out with some intelligent comments before going off the rails, and hopefully, you can return there.
It's TOO HARD for you to type "Did Saddam Move His Weapons?" in a search engine? It is well reported. By non-Jews no less, I know you'd outright reject them.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq/
Do the words "sanctions" or "embargo" have no meaning to you? Yes they sell oil, mostly to China who did not sign on to these sanctions. But if a company in a nation that does sign on buys oil from Iran, they get a hefty fine & the money is confiscated, held in trust for the future, legitimate government.
If I have to explain how sanctions work? I can only suspect you're just trolling me now.
Iran had NO involvement in Lebanon or Yemen. Nope! None at all! ๐ ๐ You're too funny!
I went to work? That's cowardly of me? I'll keep that in mind as you dodge & evade. "The only good point you made was about the accuracy of weapons, and that was logic, not facts." Oh bullshit. You claimed these missiles were "aimed" at valid military target in Israel. I said they aren't that accurate. You argued, I proved it. I also gave an example of an "atrocity" I didn't believe in. You say it isn't one YOU talked bout, but the fact remains: Hamas lies non-stop and idiots out there believe every word of it. 900+ casualties from THAT bomb crater? Seriously now.
Canada here. Not a Yank. I DO support the use of atomic weapons to end WW2. They saved a minimum of 200,000 allied lives, 800,000 wounded. They also saved a minimum of 3 million Japanese civilian deaths, and 2 million Army deaths too. At an absolute minimum. And that was just for the first landing of Downfall: Operation Olympic.
Guy claims to have "UN report proving that Saddam moved weapons to Syria". Proves it with... editorial. How embarrassing is it to be you?
You 'know' that? More proof that your mind is a vast desert, guy who believes that Iranians are Arabs.
"You aren't aware of the various embargos the international community has against Iran?"
So it wasn't the international community. Good to know that you were lying once again. Though given how extreme your ignorance is, one can't know if you're lying or just have no idea what you're talking about.
You're old enough? Then I can't imagine anyone hiring you for anything.
You can't even give an honest accounting of the things you yourself were involved in. So OK.
It honestly feels like I'm talking to a child. I asked you which of the US government atrocities you don't believe in, and you start ranting about Hamas. For the record: the US government lies continuously and you gulp up every last lie, and even defend lies from 20 years ago.
Great, then Iran gets to have nuclear weapons, and I guess use them to.