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Elon speaks out against the “big beautiful bill” (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +110 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Self-deportations haven't been thwarted at all, and of course their hypotheticals, this is month 6th of the administration and midterms are over a year away.

Nothing I said in my 2nd quote is false and you didn't re-buff it either. I didn't say that 2% wasn't cherry picked, the CPI is always a cherry pick. I never said that wages didn't meet inflation. I didn't say anything about higher wages or the H1B supply chain.

I said wages will continue to go up. They will. Will they surpass inflation, probably not for a while, but for the first time in decades they are actually rising. The CPI is what it is and you'll have to deal with that. The wages of engineers are not going to be 2/3rds of what they were by the 90's because basically no wage has done that. I've seen nothing to suggest that higher income brackets are decreasing in money.

Your lying that the administration isn't reducing mass immigration and subsidizing home buying. They're actively deporting them, you're just complaining it's not fast enough. It is not a good idea to pop the housing bubble and let houses fall 80% in value in 6 months because that would implode the entire world economy and probably start several civil wars, a regional war, and a few famines. What the administration is trying to do is grow the economy around the bubble, which should reduce the damage as it deflates. Like I said, if 400k homes are on sale at any given time, and we've removed 100k illegals so far, that is a reduction on the effect of immigration on housing. Your real problem is the amount of homes being rented which are taken off the market for sale.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Self-deportations haven't been thwarted at all, and of course their hypotheticals, this is month 6th of the administration and midterms are over a year away.

So Trump ended sanctuary cities and states or are you just being obtuse?

Nothing I said in my 2nd quote is false and you didn't re-buff it either. I didn't say that 2% wasn't cherry picked, the CPI is always a cherry pick. I never said that wages didn't meet inflation. I didn't say anything about higher wages or the H1B supply chain.

This is mealy mouthed faggotry, you wouldn’t have brought up wages or the CPI if you weren’t trying to use it as a metric.

I said wages will continue to go up. They will. Will they surpass inflation, probably not for a while, but for the first time in decades they are actually rising. The CPI is what it is and you'll have to deal with that. The wages of engineers are not going to be 2/3rds of what they were by the 90's because basically no wage has done that. I've seen nothing to suggest that higher income brackets are decreasing in money.

A starting wage for a mechanical engineer in 1990 was $56,882 adjust for inflation that is $139,455 today. A mechanical engineer starting wage today is ~$79k ($73-85k). So yes they are literally making 57% of what an engineer in 1990 made adjusting for inflation.

Your lying that the administration isn't reducing mass immigration and subsidizing home buying. They're actively deporting them, you're just complaining it's not fast enough. It is not a good idea to pop the housing bubble and let houses fall 80% in value in 6 months because that would implode the entire world economy and probably start several civil wars, a regional war, and a few famines. What the administration is trying to do is grow the economy around the bubble, which should reduce the damage as it deflates. Like I said, if 400k homes are on sale at any given time, and we've removed 100k illegals so far, that is a reduction on the effect of immigration on housing. Your real problem is the amount of homes being rented which are taken off the market for sale.

What’s the net decrease on immigration in total? 40k deported and how many imported? I’ll wait.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

So Trump ended sanctuary cities and states or are you just being obtuse?

Sanctuary cities are still being raided and having their funding threatened, many are backing down. That is a good thing. Just because you didn't get what you wanted yesterday doesn't mean that it's a failure and nothing can ever get better ever.

This is mealy mouthed faggotry, you wouldn’t have brought up wages or the CPI if you weren’t trying to use it as a metric.

Nope, I rejected your assertions because none of them were what I said, so you started making shit up.

A starting wage for a mechanical engineer in 1990 was $56,882 adjust for inflation that is $139,455 today. A mechanical engineer starting wage today is ~$79k ($73-85k). So yes they are literally making 57% of what an engineer in 1990 made adjusting for inflation.

You claimed that wages would be cut. Not that wages won't keep up or surpass inflation. You intentionally argued something worse than what was reasonable and now you backed off. I said that wages are rising which they haven't been doing in decades.

What’s the net decrease on immigration in total? 40k deported and how many imported? I’ll wait.

So will I. Stop being a black-pilling faggot.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sanctuary cities are still being raided and having their funding threatened, many are backing down. That is a good thing. Just because you didn't get what you wanted yesterday doesn't mean that it's a failure and nothing can ever get better ever.

That’s a flat lie, all the Trump admin has done so far is publish a list and none have “stood down”, most just released statements that the Trump admin was lying about their status. SHOW ME ANY ACTUAL LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS OR ARRESTS.

Nope, I rejected your assertions because none of them were what I said, so you started making shit up.

So you didn’t bring up inflation and CPI? Or are you just doubling down on being a disingenuous faggot?

You claimed that wages would be cut. Not that wages won't keep up or surpass inflation. You intentionally argued something worse than what was reasonable and now you backed off. I said that wages are rising which they haven't been doing in decades.

If you’re going to be a complete disingenuous faggot, then put your money where your mouth is. I argued exactly what I said, which is that engineers are making 2/3s of what they did in the 90s, and I proved it. If you want to play total dollar amounts as an “increase” versus inflation adjusted then put your money down and we’ll play that game. Again you’re being a massively disingenuous faggot. Wages are not “increasing now” they are actually LOWER than in 2022 when the starting wage for a mechanical engineer was 83k on average. You know who wages are increasing for? H1Bs, trumps change made them get paid a minimum of 85k for that same mechanical engineer starting salary up from 65k.

So will I. Stop being a black-pilling faggot.

40k deported on track for maybe, maybe, 100k as the high estimate of deportations for 2025. At least 120k selected H-1Bs by Trump for fiscal year 2026, and this isn’t even counting legal immigrants aside from H-1Bs. Maybe you should look at the numbers…

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

none have “stood down”

I never said they did, you're making shit up again, and demanding different things than what I'm saying. Seems like your job here is to black pill the right.

I argued exactly what I said

You didn't argue purchasing power, you argued nominal amounts which we both know was silly.

Wages are not “increasing now” they are actually LOWER than in 2022 when the starting wage for a mechanical engineer

You're projecting about disingenuousness. I said wages are increasing. That is true from the latest jobs report. You've decided to measure from a different point, a specific wage, to explicitly reject the most recent jobs report, along with all the other good news in it.

This is because you are a subversive trying to black-pill the right.

Maybe you should look at the numbers…

Why? They don't mean anything to you. You're just going to make up more bullshit by cherry picking dates and rates that fit your narrative? I'm positive the next thing your going to tell me is that immigration increased by 8,000% because the number of migrants in San Antonio increased on Tuesday from Sunday, compared to the week of August 1st in Tallahassee among biochemists; therefore Trump is an open borders advocate and we should never vote in elections.

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