Well, I'm not a pro-DEI guy but the retard posting "DEI Slop" on random 3d printed objects in a game that hasn't been released is just stupid, right?
Would you guys disagree with that? This guy and this little screenshot is a perfect image of the overly reactionary idiots that dilute the message.
Again, I'm not a pro-DEI guy but there isn't any major signs of "DEI slop" on the GTA6 info we have so far. A woman character existing isn't a sign of that, a non-white woman isn't a sign of that either - see Stellar Blade.
This guy weakens the idea of what DEI slop is by posting about something he hasn't played and doesn't really know any details about.
What I am primarily getting at is that this guy gives these faggot retard redditors an excuse to act like anyone that points at DEI is wrong/stupid/bigoted which they will never stop doing, regardless of reasoned arguments or not I suppose.
In 2025, a female protagonist that is not overtly sexualized in a AAA game is absolutely a red flag for DEI. Because DEI is ubiquitous, so the absence of green flags is a red flag.
A female protagonist in a long running game series that has never had a female protagonist is absolutely a red flag for DEI. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot or a liar.
Incidentally, using the phrase “reactionary” is a huge red flag indicating that you are a crypto lefty. Probably you oppose current day leftism because your greatest fear is an ascendant right wing.
Yup. Countering a valid generalization with “muh outliers” is a classic midwit tell. No one cares if you heard about a woman who lifts heavier than the male average, etc.
I don't think we need to investigate it thoroughly, I just think I haven't seen the overt examples of DEI yet from the single trailer released.
That being said this isn't a game I'm super hype or hopeful for, and it can likely be pozzed to a ridiculous degree with what we have heard and seen from rockstar over the years, so it is fair enough to assume I think.
I've been here since we were on reddit man, I'm not here to subvert you or any right wing movement.
Seeing a (non anime)woman beat up men, seeing women in every single position of power, seeing a black woman be a genius, all I would believe in as DEI. A female character existing isn't DEI, at least imo, but I don't disagree with a lack of green flags for sure. I haven't reserved or plan to reserve/pre-buy GTA6, just keeping my eyes open to see what it is actually like - will you be able to drive into the pride parade or will they cutscene it out/fail a mission because you kill the gays, etc?
I think to simply see 1 minute trailer and then post on people's random 3d printed logos dogshit stupid comments like "DEI slop" on an icon/logo for a game is reactionary, I'm not sure what other word can be used to describe it.
A woman character existing isn't a sign of that, a non-white woman isn't a sign of that either - see Stellar Blade.
Korean gooner bait game, which the broadly anti-woke coalition don't have an issue with for it being woke, because it isn't woke. We're talking about a british and NY game here, with a newly introduced latinx woman main character
But I suspect you already know that, and the reasons why it doesn't apply. That or you are retarded. Which is it?
What I am primarily getting at is that this guy gives these faggot retard redditors an excuse to act like anyone that points at DEI is wrong/stupid/bigoted which they will never stop doing, regardless of reasoned arguments or not I suppose.
If they won't stop, what do you care about them being given excuses, or 'optics'?
Again, I'm not a pro-DEI guy but there isn't any major signs of "DEI slop" on the GTA6 info we have so far.
We don't have proof it will be woke, but there are indicators that point in that direction, from some of the things we saw in the trailers, to the people now working at Rockstar.
It could be like the Barbie movie, where they are hiding it until they get their sales.
I would not be quick to buy it on release. I'll wait for other people to play it first and reveal what it's like.
which they will never stop doing, regardless of reasoned arguments or not I suppose
That's probably the biggest reason to just not care. It doesn't change anything.
I'm not a huge fan of such garbage posts as "DEI slop" because it's low effort and says nothing. Beside the point though, most of these things you mention aren't necessarily guarantees a game is bad but remind us of past failures. It just lets me know that a game is not worth my limited time and resources. If I see a frizzy haired black woman on the cover of an EA game, that's two huge marks against it, because I've never seen anything good come out of that combination. I'm as much wary of GTA 6 coming from Rockstar, who hasn't made a decent game since GTA 5 which they then turned into a method of milking money out of the young, naive, or dumb. So it totally doesn't get my interest as someone who loved Vice City back in that day. Because I expect it to be a platform for them to sell me microtransactions, and nothing more. I don't even have to get to DEI, which I'm undecided on for this particular game.
The purpose of pattern recognition isn’t to successfully identify a pattern and then do exactly what you were going to do before you knew better anyways because there are some outliers.
Also, the mindset of “I’ll still roll the dice on every western AAA release because 1 out of 10 might be good” is completely retarded. This isn’t a court of law. We’re not trying to prove shit beyond a reasonable doubt. We’re not letting 10 woke games go free in order to prevent even one good game from failing. This industry is rotten and deserves to fail yesterday.
And it’s not like your time on this planet is infinite. You can only play so many video games before you die. Do you want to play woke games that happen to be “good”? Do you want to support devs who hate you because they happen to be talented? Have some fucking discipline and self respect. There are already more great old games than you could ever play in one lifetime. Be discerning. Include cultural and political factors in your criteria.
To that point I moved away from early purchases of a lot of AAA games just watching the patterns on pricing. They'd be out two months and be 60% off already. What a fool I felt like paying full price.
Now though, almost any game I consider is guilty of one of (or both) DEI and general shit quality until proven innocent. I just play old stuff. It's even cheaper for PC hardware that I haven't needed to upgrade in a handful of years now.
I upgraded not long ago, and I regret it. My most played games over the last year would have run just fine on my old hardware, and I see nothing in the high-end pipeline that remotely interests me. Hell, my own most reliable AAA developer is From Soft, and their next two releases are online multiplayer only slop. It’s bleak out there lol
Well, I'm not a pro-DEI guy but the retard posting "DEI Slop" on random 3d printed objects in a game that hasn't been released is just stupid, right?
Would you guys disagree with that? This guy and this little screenshot is a perfect image of the overly reactionary idiots that dilute the message.
Again, I'm not a pro-DEI guy but there isn't any major signs of "DEI slop" on the GTA6 info we have so far. A woman character existing isn't a sign of that, a non-white woman isn't a sign of that either - see Stellar Blade.
This guy weakens the idea of what DEI slop is by posting about something he hasn't played and doesn't really know any details about.
What I am primarily getting at is that this guy gives these faggot retard redditors an excuse to act like anyone that points at DEI is wrong/stupid/bigoted which they will never stop doing, regardless of reasoned arguments or not I suppose.
In 2025, a female protagonist that is not overtly sexualized in a AAA game is absolutely a red flag for DEI. Because DEI is ubiquitous, so the absence of green flags is a red flag.
A female protagonist in a long running game series that has never had a female protagonist is absolutely a red flag for DEI. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot or a liar.
Incidentally, using the phrase “reactionary” is a huge red flag indicating that you are a crypto lefty. Probably you oppose current day leftism because your greatest fear is an ascendant right wing.
He's doing the whole, we need to investigate this thoroughly to determine what is highly likely and probable based on observed patterns.
These are the "but I know a single mom who isn't batshit (out of millions) so your stereotypes are false" kinda guys.
Yup. Countering a valid generalization with “muh outliers” is a classic midwit tell. No one cares if you heard about a woman who lifts heavier than the male average, etc.
I don't think we need to investigate it thoroughly, I just think I haven't seen the overt examples of DEI yet from the single trailer released.
That being said this isn't a game I'm super hype or hopeful for, and it can likely be pozzed to a ridiculous degree with what we have heard and seen from rockstar over the years, so it is fair enough to assume I think.
I've been here since we were on reddit man, I'm not here to subvert you or any right wing movement.
Seeing a (non anime)woman beat up men, seeing women in every single position of power, seeing a black woman be a genius, all I would believe in as DEI. A female character existing isn't DEI, at least imo, but I don't disagree with a lack of green flags for sure. I haven't reserved or plan to reserve/pre-buy GTA6, just keeping my eyes open to see what it is actually like - will you be able to drive into the pride parade or will they cutscene it out/fail a mission because you kill the gays, etc?
I think to simply see 1 minute trailer and then post on people's random 3d printed logos dogshit stupid comments like "DEI slop" on an icon/logo for a game is reactionary, I'm not sure what other word can be used to describe it.
Korean gooner bait game, which the broadly anti-woke coalition don't have an issue with for it being woke, because it isn't woke. We're talking about a british and NY game here, with a newly introduced latinx woman main character
But I suspect you already know that, and the reasons why it doesn't apply. That or you are retarded. Which is it?
If they won't stop, what do you care about them being given excuses, or 'optics'?
We don't have proof it will be woke, but there are indicators that point in that direction, from some of the things we saw in the trailers, to the people now working at Rockstar.
It could be like the Barbie movie, where they are hiding it until they get their sales.
I would not be quick to buy it on release. I'll wait for other people to play it first and reveal what it's like.
That's probably the biggest reason to just not care. It doesn't change anything.
I'm not a huge fan of such garbage posts as "DEI slop" because it's low effort and says nothing. Beside the point though, most of these things you mention aren't necessarily guarantees a game is bad but remind us of past failures. It just lets me know that a game is not worth my limited time and resources. If I see a frizzy haired black woman on the cover of an EA game, that's two huge marks against it, because I've never seen anything good come out of that combination. I'm as much wary of GTA 6 coming from Rockstar, who hasn't made a decent game since GTA 5 which they then turned into a method of milking money out of the young, naive, or dumb. So it totally doesn't get my interest as someone who loved Vice City back in that day. Because I expect it to be a platform for them to sell me microtransactions, and nothing more. I don't even have to get to DEI, which I'm undecided on for this particular game.
The purpose of pattern recognition isn’t to successfully identify a pattern and then do exactly what you were going to do before you knew better anyways because there are some outliers.
Also, the mindset of “I’ll still roll the dice on every western AAA release because 1 out of 10 might be good” is completely retarded. This isn’t a court of law. We’re not trying to prove shit beyond a reasonable doubt. We’re not letting 10 woke games go free in order to prevent even one good game from failing. This industry is rotten and deserves to fail yesterday.
And it’s not like your time on this planet is infinite. You can only play so many video games before you die. Do you want to play woke games that happen to be “good”? Do you want to support devs who hate you because they happen to be talented? Have some fucking discipline and self respect. There are already more great old games than you could ever play in one lifetime. Be discerning. Include cultural and political factors in your criteria.
Apologies, this was a bit of a rant.
To that point I moved away from early purchases of a lot of AAA games just watching the patterns on pricing. They'd be out two months and be 60% off already. What a fool I felt like paying full price.
Now though, almost any game I consider is guilty of one of (or both) DEI and general shit quality until proven innocent. I just play old stuff. It's even cheaper for PC hardware that I haven't needed to upgrade in a handful of years now.
I upgraded not long ago, and I regret it. My most played games over the last year would have run just fine on my old hardware, and I see nothing in the high-end pipeline that remotely interests me. Hell, my own most reliable AAA developer is From Soft, and their next two releases are online multiplayer only slop. It’s bleak out there lol