That may have been the case in the 1990's, but I think the real issue is that the scientific literature around porn is actually fucking damning. It's becoming clear that the level of pornography being consumed by young men is actually damaging their brains like a drug would, and screwing with their conscious understanding of human relationships.
Besides creating a weird dopamine addiction, and creating maladaptive behavior patterns, it also seems to be setting wrong expectations for men towards their sexual partners and then it causes resentment and dissatisfaction in men with their partners because those wrong expectations are unfulfilled.
Even I, as a kind of minarchist, have to admit that access to pornography probably does need to be more restricted by some structure in society because of it's damage. Sargon said something about this once that is simply indisputable: "You've seen more breasts in your twenties than your grand-parents saw in their lives." and that must have an effect. It simply can't, not, have an effect.
I'm not saying we need to go down the Tipper Gore route, but clearly what we're doing now is actually really destructive, and may be one of the causes of our current demographic black-hole.
Adyn Paladin did two major looks into the scientific literature on porn:
Oh, I am absolutely not disagreeing that something has gone wrong here. I am not pretending to be some prude and will I have spanked that monkey plenty in my time. But while I never fell down the path of "Must get more and more hardcore to feel something", I have seen plenty of people getting into straight up Slaanesh territory. So I can entirely agree that we need to find a way for people to moderate their porn habits (since I dont believe we can ever truly get rid of it without panopticon-tier surveillance) and regulate the porn industry.
It is simply that while I agree with the idea that we must, there is also that nerve picking up in the back of my head saying that tyrants always go for the deviants first because it gets their foot in the door, and so you must be extremely cautious of it, and I dont particularly trust many of the people pushing it.
Porn addiction is an overrated concept.Dealing with the finer aspects is what's needed.
Sargon said something about this once that is simply indisputable: "You've seen more breasts in your twenties than your grand-parents saw in their lives."
I think it was Peterson that said it but who cares.If anything it's good for demystifying women.
Demystifying women isn't necessarily a good thing. At a certain point, you have to accept romance into a relationship. Society can't be purely objectively transactional.
That may have been the case in the 1990's, but I think the real issue is that the scientific literature around porn is actually fucking damning. It's becoming clear that the level of pornography being consumed by young men is actually damaging their brains like a drug would, and screwing with their conscious understanding of human relationships.
Besides creating a weird dopamine addiction, and creating maladaptive behavior patterns, it also seems to be setting wrong expectations for men towards their sexual partners and then it causes resentment and dissatisfaction in men with their partners because those wrong expectations are unfulfilled.
Even I, as a kind of minarchist, have to admit that access to pornography probably does need to be more restricted by some structure in society because of it's damage. Sargon said something about this once that is simply indisputable: "You've seen more breasts in your twenties than your grand-parents saw in their lives." and that must have an effect. It simply can't, not, have an effect.
I'm not saying we need to go down the Tipper Gore route, but clearly what we're doing now is actually really destructive, and may be one of the causes of our current demographic black-hole.
Adyn Paladin did two major looks into the scientific literature on porn:
Oh, I am absolutely not disagreeing that something has gone wrong here. I am not pretending to be some prude and will I have spanked that monkey plenty in my time. But while I never fell down the path of "Must get more and more hardcore to feel something", I have seen plenty of people getting into straight up Slaanesh territory. So I can entirely agree that we need to find a way for people to moderate their porn habits (since I dont believe we can ever truly get rid of it without panopticon-tier surveillance) and regulate the porn industry.
It is simply that while I agree with the idea that we must, there is also that nerve picking up in the back of my head saying that tyrants always go for the deviants first because it gets their foot in the door, and so you must be extremely cautious of it, and I dont particularly trust many of the people pushing it.
I agree with you on all of this. My problem is I don't know where the line is supposed to be. I don't disagree with your concern.
Porn addiction is an overrated concept.Dealing with the finer aspects is what's needed.
I think it was Peterson that said it but who cares.If anything it's good for demystifying women.
Demystifying women isn't necessarily a good thing. At a certain point, you have to accept romance into a relationship. Society can't be purely objectively transactional.
tThose are 3 separate subjects.