Women voted for the nazis because the Weimar republic allowed women to vote , but the nazis themselves kept women out of the political affairs of their party and were the only political party to do so at the time . Its amazing how many people condemn the nazis without knowing anything about them.
but the nazis themselves kept women out of the political affairs of their party and were the only political party to do so at the time
False, they encouraged the majority women to be wives and moms but they also used women in political roles when it was convenient for them. You could argue they removed women from parliament. This is still a massive goalpost shift considering your post was about suffrage, not government positions, and almost half of the votes for Nazi Germany came from… women.
Gertrud Scholtz-Klink, for instance, was the leader of the National Socialist Women's League (NSF) and was the highest-ranking female official in Nazi Germany.
it wasn't about woman's sufferage it was about the fact that America was undoubtedly more leftist than imperial Japan and nazi Germany and were supporting the leftist side of politics (it was Democrats who led the war against the Axis for crying out loud) . They forced Japan to accept women in politics. They were against the only political party in Germany that had been keeping women out of politics and were attacked for keeping women out of politics . Did you bother to read what i posted about what
Joseph Goebbels said on women?
“ In 1890, the first session of the Imperial Diet issues the Law on Assembly and Political Association (shukai oyobi seishaho), which is the first government issued decree banning women from joining political parties. In 1921, the Diet voted to overrule this decree allowing women to attend political meetings.”
Feminism didn’t occur in a vacuum and the writing on the wall was inevitable, you can argue the US pushed for suffrages but they were inevitable regardless.
They were against the only political party in Germany that had been keeping women out of politics and were attacked for keeping women out of politics.
Sooo WW2 was started over women in politics? They also didn’t “keep women out of politics”, they didn’t allow female representatives in parliament, two massively different things.
Did you bother to read what i posted about what Joseph Goebbels said on women?
Did you bother to see if Nazi Germany had women in political roles?
Also, the women were some of the most hardcore enforcers of Nazi ideology. Just as they were some of the most sadistic and ardent Communist. And just as they are now some of the most vicious and unhinged Woke enforcers.
What I am saying is: Orwell was right about women in politics (especially extremist movements).
Women during the more religious era of the middle ages were also the most hardcore religious people. Women are just extremists in anything they believe in.
saying that Japan changed to allow more female participation in 1921 is not the win you think it is. It doesn't change the fact that America came along and forcefully pushed full women's rights on Japan in 1945.
Also the Taisho era of Japan(1912-1926) was known for being more liberal and democratic and more commie. Which is exactly why the imperial military started asserting its power around the Showa era to remove the liberal and democratic and commie trend that had been propping up and why Japan became a military junta by the time of the Showa era.the Taisho era was pretty much the "weimar republic" era of Japan, and the Showa era was the "nazi" era of Japan
saying that Japan changed to allow more female participation in 1921 is not the win you think it is. It doesn't change the fact that America came along and forcefully pushed full women's rights on Japan in 1945.
Saying that something was occurring 2 decades before the US showed up totally isn’t relevant to it occurring…
Also the Taisho era of Japan was known for being more liberal and democratic and more commie. Which is exactly why the imperial military started asserting its power around the Showa era to remove the liberal and democratic and commie trend that had been propping up and why Japan became a military junta by the time of the Showa era
So they reinstated the ban on women? Oh wait, they didn’t
Ok ? and how are you going to explain away the fact that America forced full woman's rights on Japan and removed their ban on communism? Imperial Japan banned communism. And America removed that ban and released their communist prisioners. And there's a reason why right wingers in Japan absolutely hate the constitution that America forced on Japan.
No matter what nitpicky flaws you can find with Japan or Germany., America was 100 times worse and 100 times more leftist than both of them. . Yet you support America
So i guess you think American Democrats are wrong about everything except for ww2?. The commie president FDR who led America in to war with the Axes and who had jewish anscestry was also perfect and did nothing wrong
You know that the National Socialist movement is the only party that keeps women out of daily politics. This arouses bitter criticism and hostility, all of it very unjustified. We have kept women out of the parliamentary-democratic intrigues of the past fourteen years in Germany not because we do not respect them, but because we respect them too much. We do not see the woman as inferior, but as having a different mission, a different value, than that of the man. Therefore, we believed the German woman, who more than any other in the world is a woman in the best sense of the word, should use her strength and abilities in other areas than the man.
The woman has always been not only the man’s sexual companion but also his fellow worker. Long ago, she did heavy labour with the man in the field. She moved with him into the cities, entering the offices and factories, doing her share of the work for which she was best suited. She did this with all her abilities, her loyalty, her selfless devotion, her readiness to sacrifice.
The woman in public life today is no different than the women of the past. No one who understands the modern age would have the crazy idea of driving women from public life, from work, profession, and breadwinning. But it must also be said that those things that belong to the man must remain his. That includes politics and the military. That is not to disparage women, only to recognise how she best uses her talents and abilities.
Looking back over the past years of Germany’s decline, we come to the frightening, nearly terrifying, conclusion that the less German men were willing to act as men in public life, the more women succumbed to the temptation to fill the role of the man. The feminisation of men always leads to the masculinisation of women. An age in which all great idea of virtue, of steadfastness, of hardness, and determination have been forgotten should not be surprised that the man gradually loses his leading role in life and politics and government to the woman.
Yeah women voted for the nazis. Weimar republic were the ones who set up that precidence of women voting. But the Nazi party itself didn't allow women to dable in the political affairs of their party , unlike the other political parties at the time
Yeah women voted for the nazis. Weimar republic were the ones who set up that precidence of women voting. But the Nazi party itself didn't allow women to dable in the political affairs of their party , unlike the other political parties at the time
They had women in political positions, they didn’t allow them to be parliament representatives.
Hmm i seem to remember America siding the Soviet Union, and not fighting with the Weimar republic the way they fought with nazis even before the war was officially declared. . When they defeated Nazi Germany they forced Germany to have the Weimar republic flag as their flag again.
You know that women voted in Nazi Germany right?
Or is that American propaganda too?
Women voted for the nazis because the Weimar republic allowed women to vote , but the nazis themselves kept women out of the political affairs of their party and were the only political party to do so at the time . Its amazing how many people condemn the nazis without knowing anything about them.
False, they encouraged the majority women to be wives and moms but they also used women in political roles when it was convenient for them. You could argue they removed women from parliament. This is still a massive goalpost shift considering your post was about suffrage, not government positions, and almost half of the votes for Nazi Germany came from… women.
it wasn't about woman's sufferage it was about the fact that America was undoubtedly more leftist than imperial Japan and nazi Germany and were supporting the leftist side of politics (it was Democrats who led the war against the Axis for crying out loud) . They forced Japan to accept women in politics. They were against the only political party in Germany that had been keeping women out of politics and were attacked for keeping women out of politics . Did you bother to read what i posted about what Joseph Goebbels said on women?
That's self evident to anyone paying the slightest amount of attention. FDR was accused of having communist sympathies even back then.
“ In 1890, the first session of the Imperial Diet issues the Law on Assembly and Political Association (shukai oyobi seishaho), which is the first government issued decree banning women from joining political parties. In 1921, the Diet voted to overrule this decree allowing women to attend political meetings.”
Feminism didn’t occur in a vacuum and the writing on the wall was inevitable, you can argue the US pushed for suffrages but they were inevitable regardless.
Sooo WW2 was started over women in politics? They also didn’t “keep women out of politics”, they didn’t allow female representatives in parliament, two massively different things.
Did you bother to see if Nazi Germany had women in political roles?
Also, the women were some of the most hardcore enforcers of Nazi ideology. Just as they were some of the most sadistic and ardent Communist. And just as they are now some of the most vicious and unhinged Woke enforcers.
What I am saying is: Orwell was right about women in politics (especially extremist movements).
Women during the more religious era of the middle ages were also the most hardcore religious people. Women are just extremists in anything they believe in.
saying that Japan changed to allow more female participation in 1921 is not the win you think it is. It doesn't change the fact that America came along and forcefully pushed full women's rights on Japan in 1945.
Also the Taisho era of Japan(1912-1926) was known for being more liberal and democratic and more commie. Which is exactly why the imperial military started asserting its power around the Showa era to remove the liberal and democratic and commie trend that had been propping up and why Japan became a military junta by the time of the Showa era.the Taisho era was pretty much the "weimar republic" era of Japan, and the Showa era was the "nazi" era of Japan
Saying that something was occurring 2 decades before the US showed up totally isn’t relevant to it occurring…
So they reinstated the ban on women? Oh wait, they didn’t
Ok ? and how are you going to explain away the fact that America forced full woman's rights on Japan and removed their ban on communism? Imperial Japan banned communism. And America removed that ban and released their communist prisioners. And there's a reason why right wingers in Japan absolutely hate the constitution that America forced on Japan.
No matter what nitpicky flaws you can find with Japan or Germany., America was 100 times worse and 100 times more leftist than both of them. . Yet you support America
So i guess you think American Democrats are wrong about everything except for ww2?. The commie president FDR who led America in to war with the Axes and who had jewish anscestry was also perfect and did nothing wrong
“Pointing out my argument is inane is the same as supporting communism” cool story cupcake
Thanks for letting me know you support the Democrats and their commie president who had jewish anscestry.
Joseph Goebbels on women (1933) https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/joseph-goebbels-on-women/
Yeah women voted for the nazis. Weimar republic were the ones who set up that precidence of women voting. But the Nazi party itself didn't allow women to dable in the political affairs of their party , unlike the other political parties at the time
They had women in political positions, they didn’t allow them to be parliament representatives.
ok? they were still by far the most anti feminist party that Germany had at the time.
That’s saying next to nothing considering their “competition” was literally communism and Weimar degeneracy…
And yet it was the communists and the Weimar republic that America supported
Really? Who supported and how!
Hmm i seem to remember America siding the Soviet Union, and not fighting with the Weimar republic the way they fought with nazis even before the war was officially declared. . When they defeated Nazi Germany they forced Germany to have the Weimar republic flag as their flag again.
Beate Sirota Gordon. Introduced feminism to Japan in 1947, the birth rate plummeted and never recovered.
Yes, she was.
I didn't self-radicalize in online niche forums for anyone to call me a fucking conservative.
"Conservative" is the new 'punk rock'. Fuckin' timeline amirite?