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posted 1 year ago by NikolaiVsevolodovich 1 year ago by NikolaiVsevolodovich +97 / -0
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– horstshort 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes. He thought he could peacefully prepare to attack Germany and the rest of Europe and didn't expect Hitler to pre-emptively attack him. That's why he didn't build any defenses at the border but did build a ton of shit that would've been very useful for an offensive. That's why Barbarossa was so successful in the first place.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't think so. I've seen nothing from Soviet history that suggests that Stalin intended a war with Germany. Expansion into Eastern Europe, yes. Remember, Stalin and Lenin were basically on the same page regarding expansion (Trotsky was not, and was why he was dead), and the answer was not to expand until the Soviet Union was running properly. They were still having food problems (like always) and Stalin was moving industry west and purging his own military as Germany invaded Poland. If the Soviets intended to invade Central Europe, Stalin would probably have been dead by the time that day came. Hitler chose a war with Poland, he chose a war with the Soviets, he chose a war with France, and he chose a war with Britain.

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– horstshort 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I don't think so. I've seen nothing from Soviet history that suggests that Stalin intended a war with Germany.

Because you think Putin would admit to the Soviet Union being the bad guy? Because all of the archives are open to the public? Because innumerous documents aren't still under lock and key for decades?

If the Soviets intended to invade Central Europe, Stalin would probably have been dead by the time that day came.

Right. That's why Stalin was the bad guy before the German invasion, the good guy during the invasion when Britain allied with him and then immediately the bad guy again after the war had ended.

Hitler chose a war with Poland, he chose a war with the Soviets, he chose a war with France, and he chose a war with Britain.

No, he didn't. He tried everything to ally himself with Britain. He tried everything find a peaceful solution with Poland and ally himself with them against the Soviet Union. He tried numerous times before he invaded Poland, he tried after the invasion, he tried before France was invaded and he tried after France was defeated.

Churchill wanted the war so badly that he sacrificed the entire British empire, sold out Poland, sold out the entirety of Eastern Europe and made Britain into a de facto vassal state of the US.

Hitler was the only one who made innumerous peace offers. No one else did.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Putin doesn't have anything to do with this.

Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini were good guys at different times depending on when the Fabians of the west thought they could use one to balance another.

Hitler's peace was a Roman one to everyone who received them. Hitler never wanted peace, actively sought war, and was genuinely surprised when he got peace instead, laughing at how stupid the attempts at appeasement were. Each one was a successive victory on his way to war, which was a necessary and good war as defined by the Nietzschean Racial Darwinism he was asserting within National Socialism. Every peace he sought came with territorial expansion, demographic replacement, and vassalage. That is what he gave the Czechs, the Poles, the Danes, the Swedes, the French, and everyone else.

If he wanted peace with Britain, he could have had it. He did have it. Multiple times over. Rudolf Hess wanted peace with Britain and he was condemned by Nazi leadership for getting it.

Churchill got played by FDR.

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– horstshort 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Rudolf Hess wanted peace with Britain and he was condemned by Nazi leadership for getting it.

Right. That's why he was imprisoned until his murder in 1987 (suicide if you believe that a 93 year frail old man would've been able to hang himself and ignore what his caretaker said) shortly before he would've been released and could've told his side of the story.

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