Marx
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A positive outcome to wanted and warranted labor is what generates value.
If you attempt to say, repair a car but fail, although it was necessary and desirable to do, you still did nothing of value.
Yes, value is subjective and personal. If one person likes apples more than oranges they would likely see the value of an apple farm more than an orange one.
Labor is just energy spent, if it's not spent on something most people value as positive then it's either a waste of energy or possibly even a negative.
It's the "and have a positive outcome" I take issue with as wanted labor can also have a negative outcome. Take for example Jaguar's rebranding and other DEI.
Then you don't understand because what I said is that it requires all three to be true, or else labor has no value. Unwanted and/or unwarranted labor is also worthless.
This communication is going nowhere. Your point is understood and I am disputing it. I am telling you that that for social or political reasons wanted labor can have a negative outcome i.e. the goal is to lose money.
If you just want to be right on the internet, congratulations here is your trophy. I don't care.