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Atlantic: What Porn Did to American Culture (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by Ahaus667 1 year ago by Ahaus667 +69 / -0
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– covok48 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

What southern states are doing is a good first step.

Prove you’re 18+, not just with a wink, but actually verify.

Porn site are then removing themselves.

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– Kienan 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

Prove you’re 18+

Absolutely not. I've said it before, but that just ends online anonymity, under the guise of 'think of the children.' It's a very slippery slope to full on internet ID.

And, as I've said, it affects everyone, not just minors, since adults need to prove they're not minors, meaning everyone shows ID to access some websites. And what if it expands? It's a hop skip and a jump to demanding ID for other "adult" gated activities...like exercising your Second Amendment rights. "Government needs your ID to even look at gun content" isn't that far removed, for example.

Miss me with that.

Internet anonymity is one of the few good things the current landscape has given us, and we need to keep it, or we lose hard.

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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yeah, Ofcom in the UK passes one online ID bill for the entire Internet.

And Airstrip One overnight essentially becomes another hermit kingdom.

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– covok48 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You have to prove you’re 18+ to do anything in person and many things online already. You’re either serious about combatting porn or you’re not.

People talk about the evils of porn until they got to wank it. Then they get super serious about privacy all of the sudden.

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– Kienan 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

You’re either serious about combatting porn or you’re not.

You're either serious about free speech and internet freedom or you're not.

See? I can do it too.

People talk about the evils of porn until they got to wank it.

Two things. I love how the default anti-porn stance is 'if you don't agree with me you just want to masturbate.' No.

That doesn't even work, since I am over eighteen. Even if the government could completely shut down porn for anyone under eighteen, without hurting anyone's rights...well, I could still watch porn if I wanted to. So this 'you just want to wank' doesn't track.

You have to prove you’re 18+ to do anything in person and many things online already.

Yeah, but most of those aren't related to speech or accessing information, and the online ID is mostly for purchases which, again, is different than speech or information. Internet ID would be a disaster.

Then they get super serious about privacy all of the sudden.

I'm always serious about privacy. I thought everyone here was?

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– covok48 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Porn is not freedom of speech. It’s a regulated vice that’s now actually being enforced at a bare minimum standard and this place hates it. Why am I not surprised?

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