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Remember when studios LEARNED from their mistakes? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by weltallic 1 year ago by weltallic +68 / -0
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– weltallic [S] 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

Actually, there's TWO points to make.

  1. The film's reception was so bad, the G.I.Joe film's ending was hastily re-written as they were also planning to "subvert expectations" by killing off the boss character. THAT'S THE CORRECT RESPONSE. They didn't "double down" like what they do today. Slamming the brakes after seeing the person in front of you fall into a sinkhole is the obvious SANE response.

  2. Young boys need brave, towering, archetypal heroes. They DON'T need flawed, "relatable" main characters. I've never seen a young boy point at a gangly, weak, indecisive main character on big screen and excitedly tell his mom n' dad "He's like me!" Young boys need heroes to look UP to, not ones that reflect traits the audience should hope to grow out of.

TL;DR: https://i.imgur.com/JluPBgK.jpeg

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– Vivs3rdSock 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

The film's reception was so bad, the G.I.Joe film's ending was hastily re-written as they were also planning to "subvert expectations" by killing off the boss character.

It was G. I. Joe's fault in the first place.

Buzz Dixon, a writer for the G.I. Joe cartoon, revealed in an interview that Duke was indirectly responsible for the first death of Optimus Prime, who in turn was indirectly responsible for saving Duke's life. The writers of G.I. Joe: The Movie asked Hasbro for permission to kill Duke off, and Hasbro not only granted it, they thought it was a great idea and way to clear out older characters in favor of new ones, so they instructed the writers of the upcoming Transformers movie to kill off most of the original cast of the cartoon series. The Transformers movie ended up being released first, but fan (and parent) reactions to all of the character deaths, especially that of Optimus Prime, were overwhelmingly negative, to the point where a spooked Hasbro changed their minds and ordered the Joe writers to spare Duke. This led to an awkward new dialogue in the G.I. Joe movie stating that the clearly killed Duke had merely fallen into a coma, along with an inserted line at the end saying that he had awakened and was going to recover.

THAT'S THE CORRECT RESPONSE. They didn't "double down" like what they do today.

They literally did the exact same thing with the second live action movie and killed off Duke [again]. Nothing was learned.

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– BeefyBelisarius 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

and Hasbro not only granted it, they thought it was a great idea and way to clear out older characters in favor of new ones

Because their only thought was how to sell more new toys.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I don’t get why that’s the first thought, though. Have a spin-off where Duke goes and trains GI JOE SPECIAL RECRUIT UNIT or whatever. Then you can even make crossover toys where the original characters get special “instructor” or “veteran” or “mentor” figures, or whatever you want to call them.

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– BetterNameUnfound 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I saw the special commentaries on the 2006 Transformers movie DVD.

Hasbro didn't see it as a "mostly-serious with characters you can root for and want to be like" show.

It was a toy show.

It was meant to advertise toys.

That's all Hasbro saw it as then.

The reaction to this movie was exactly what made Hasbro change their views on this.

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