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Remember when studios LEARNED from their mistakes? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by weltallic 1 year ago by weltallic +68 / -0
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I don’t get why that’s the first thought, though. Have a spin-off where Duke goes and trains GI JOE SPECIAL RECRUIT UNIT or whatever. Then you can even make crossover toys where the original characters get special “instructor” or “veteran” or “mentor” figures, or whatever you want to call them.

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– BetterNameUnfound 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I saw the special commentaries on the 2006 Transformers movie DVD.

Hasbro didn't see it as a "mostly-serious with characters you can root for and want to be like" show.

It was a toy show.

It was meant to advertise toys.

That's all Hasbro saw it as then.

The reaction to this movie was exactly what made Hasbro change their views on this.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yeah, but the problem is: that's still dumb. Imagine you're Hasbro. You must have some knowledge that your toy-commercial-as-TV-show is popular. You have the sales figures on the toys. You have the TV ratings. You've probably done some kind of market research. At the very least, you know enough to think it's worth making into a movie in the first place. Even if you think, quite understandably, "we should use this movie to introduce a bunch of new toys," or, a little less understandably (but I'll forgive it), "the kids don't actually care much about the characters specifically, it's enough that they fire guns and they're on screen so we can theoretically slop out new ones whenever," you still have to forget that parents and children might have a couple objections to seeing the hero of a kids' movie get stabbed and die on screen.

But even if you are misinformed about your products' popularity, and even if you do totally forget that killing the hero might not go down well, you still have to make the wrong choice here too: what will actually give you more opportunity to sell new toys? Killing Duke off and saying he's gone for good, or having him written off in a less permanent way? You can get you new line out either way, but option B lets you keep Duke in your back pocket for if the new guys aren't as popular or to make special edition guest cameo figurines or whatever.

It requires bad decision making on every level.

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– BetterNameUnfound 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, it WAS dumb. I completely agree with you.

But that's how they saw things in the 1980s.

TV shows meant solely to advertise toys and games had JUST been made legal at the start of the decade. That's how Rubik The Amazing Cube got made (I'm not making that up).

This was new territory, and they were businessmen--empty suits, bean-counters, not creators. They had no reason to see this as anything more than an advertising vehicle...no pun intended.

The views are different now, largely thanks to the reactions to this movie. Now we get Transformers shows that actually stand on their own as series, such as Animated and Prime did--I loved Transformers Prime.

Or at least, they used to stand on their own as series...I just remembered the they/them atrocity that was Transformers Earthspark. Yuck.

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