This shit is important, and getting it wrong at the Supreme Court level like this will have ramifications for decades. Unless this is one of those "narrowly tailored" gayops from Roberts, haven't looked into this particular case. But it's still bad regardless.
Apparently the fools on the pro-gun side argued only a point of minutia: that the P80 kit didn't fall under the definition of "readily convertible" to a firearm based on where the definition fell in the text. The ruling was narrow in that it held some kits meet the definition ("we'll know it when we see it"). They didn't even challenge the constitutionality of the law under Bruen's text/history/tradition test.
When you challenge a law, you list every possible reason you claim it should be struck down, because you never know which argument will be the winner, and you're stuck with the arguments from the original trial on appeal.
The Obamacare lawsuit was the model for how you do it. The Republicans threw every objection they could think of in the filing, which was a good thing, because they won on some obscure Medicare cost sharing rule instead of the primary argument that it was illegal for the feds to force you to buy insurance from a private company.
The court ate up the bullshit claim that the penalty was a tax, even though it was always called a penalty until they were defending it in court. It would have been game over right there if that was the only argument in the filing.
So, unpopular opinion: I'm kind of like "who gives a shit" on much about the second amendment anymore... It's just grown tiring hearing chest-beating 'muh sekint amendurr' from LARPing rednecks who want to play with toys but won't admit that that's all there is to it.
Go to any forum full of those kinds of people, that talks about 'muh 2a SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED' and post the schematics for making your own home machine gun, and you'll be banned faster than you could ever be banned on Reddit. There is nothing criminal about gun schematics for machine guns. There is nothing criminal about detailed instructions for making your own home suppressors. Even if I showed off my entirely illegal third-pin-drilled, homemade autosear equipped (for DOUBLE the fun!) AR15, guess what, that isn't a fucking crime for you to have that image on your forum, or to look at it. It's like thinking looking at Hunter's cocaine is a crime. But Fudd-run cesspools like AR15.com are militant about that gay shit because MUH FEDS.
Having an unstamped machine gun is literally just an issue of taxation, but I've met zero shit-talkers who are doing some underground criminal shit. For fuck's sake, go to an AK forum, and you'll find them all taking 922(r) "required US made parts" super-seriously, and making sure all their guns are in compliance, because they're a bunch of bootlicking fags.
When the bump stock ban came down, they all hid their bump stocks, because at the end of the day, they will comply with anything, and the MOLON LABE shit is just them being poseurs. The issue of gun laws is primarily about their guns being toys than it is anything else, which also explains why things like "Sunday Gunday" are just about humblebragging with some wildly overpriced gucci rifle. It's just about showing off how rich and cool you are. Retards are dropping $4,000 for Wilson Combat shitheaps and trying to justify how great it is with completely subjective, immeasurable metrics they don't actually know, like "muh fit and finish".
Arm braces are a great example. EVERY SINGLE PERSON KNOWS AN ARM BRACE IS A FUCKING STOCK. YOU ARE FOOLING NOBODY. I bet fewer than 20% of brace owners have ever even strapped it to their arm. The entire point of the arm brace restriction was to be a loophole in the SBR law... that means arm braces existed because 'MUH COME AND TAKE IT' types dutifully spent millions of dollars on R&D, production, and purchasing these fucking gimmicks to make sure their SBR toy was super-duper legal and extra-compliant with laws they claim they will not comply with... but they literally did, otherwise who the fuck was buying the arm braces, and for what purpose?
It's not that I'm against the second amendment but hearing trashholes post the same copy-pasted Boomer rage on everything for decades just... kinda grows exhausting, y'know? They're a bunch of tough-talking hicks online but a bunch of mewling weeping yellow-bellied bootlicking pussies in real life, which is why a 17 year old kid in Kenosha was left to fight the rioters alone while all the "TRY THAT IN A SMALL TOWN" types hid in their trailers rage-posting their fantasy dreams online.
Having an unstamped machine gun is literally just an issue of taxation
I'm honestly surprised that people charged with violating the NFA haven't challenged the law as cruel and unusual punishment. 10 years in federal prison for failure to pay a $200 tax? Shit, they've got nothing to lose adding it to their defense.
And those lying assholes swore in Miller it was a tax measure, not an attempt at illegal federal gun control, so they could use fedgov's own words against it (they cared just a bit more about the appearance of complying with the Constitution then; now they don't even bother).
Man, this really, really, really sucks.
This shit is important, and getting it wrong at the Supreme Court level like this will have ramifications for decades. Unless this is one of those "narrowly tailored" gayops from Roberts, haven't looked into this particular case. But it's still bad regardless.
Apparently the fools on the pro-gun side argued only a point of minutia: that the P80 kit didn't fall under the definition of "readily convertible" to a firearm based on where the definition fell in the text. The ruling was narrow in that it held some kits meet the definition ("we'll know it when we see it"). They didn't even challenge the constitutionality of the law under Bruen's text/history/tradition test.
When you challenge a law, you list every possible reason you claim it should be struck down, because you never know which argument will be the winner, and you're stuck with the arguments from the original trial on appeal.
The Obamacare lawsuit was the model for how you do it. The Republicans threw every objection they could think of in the filing, which was a good thing, because they won on some obscure Medicare cost sharing rule instead of the primary argument that it was illegal for the feds to force you to buy insurance from a private company.
The court ate up the bullshit claim that the penalty was a tax, even though it was always called a penalty until they were defending it in court. It would have been game over right there if that was the only argument in the filing.
So, unpopular opinion: I'm kind of like "who gives a shit" on much about the second amendment anymore... It's just grown tiring hearing chest-beating 'muh sekint amendurr' from LARPing rednecks who want to play with toys but won't admit that that's all there is to it.
Go to any forum full of those kinds of people, that talks about 'muh 2a SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED' and post the schematics for making your own home machine gun, and you'll be banned faster than you could ever be banned on Reddit. There is nothing criminal about gun schematics for machine guns. There is nothing criminal about detailed instructions for making your own home suppressors. Even if I showed off my entirely illegal third-pin-drilled, homemade autosear equipped (for DOUBLE the fun!) AR15, guess what, that isn't a fucking crime for you to have that image on your forum, or to look at it. It's like thinking looking at Hunter's cocaine is a crime. But Fudd-run cesspools like AR15.com are militant about that gay shit because MUH FEDS.
Having an unstamped machine gun is literally just an issue of taxation, but I've met zero shit-talkers who are doing some underground criminal shit. For fuck's sake, go to an AK forum, and you'll find them all taking 922(r) "required US made parts" super-seriously, and making sure all their guns are in compliance, because they're a bunch of bootlicking fags.
When the bump stock ban came down, they all hid their bump stocks, because at the end of the day, they will comply with anything, and the MOLON LABE shit is just them being poseurs. The issue of gun laws is primarily about their guns being toys than it is anything else, which also explains why things like "Sunday Gunday" are just about humblebragging with some wildly overpriced gucci rifle. It's just about showing off how rich and cool you are. Retards are dropping $4,000 for Wilson Combat shitheaps and trying to justify how great it is with completely subjective, immeasurable metrics they don't actually know, like "muh fit and finish".
Arm braces are a great example. EVERY SINGLE PERSON KNOWS AN ARM BRACE IS A FUCKING STOCK. YOU ARE FOOLING NOBODY. I bet fewer than 20% of brace owners have ever even strapped it to their arm. The entire point of the arm brace restriction was to be a loophole in the SBR law... that means arm braces existed because 'MUH COME AND TAKE IT' types dutifully spent millions of dollars on R&D, production, and purchasing these fucking gimmicks to make sure their SBR toy was super-duper legal and extra-compliant with laws they claim they will not comply with... but they literally did, otherwise who the fuck was buying the arm braces, and for what purpose?
It's not that I'm against the second amendment but hearing trashholes post the same copy-pasted Boomer rage on everything for decades just... kinda grows exhausting, y'know? They're a bunch of tough-talking hicks online but a bunch of mewling weeping yellow-bellied bootlicking pussies in real life, which is why a 17 year old kid in Kenosha was left to fight the rioters alone while all the "TRY THAT IN A SMALL TOWN" types hid in their trailers rage-posting their fantasy dreams online.
I'm honestly surprised that people charged with violating the NFA haven't challenged the law as cruel and unusual punishment. 10 years in federal prison for failure to pay a $200 tax? Shit, they've got nothing to lose adding it to their defense.
And those lying assholes swore in Miller it was a tax measure, not an attempt at illegal federal gun control, so they could use fedgov's own words against it (they cared just a bit more about the appearance of complying with the Constitution then; now they don't even bother).